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régression assumée

English translation: return to childhood


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French term or phrase:régression
English translation: return to childhood
Entered by: liz askew
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16:55 Feb 25, 2009
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology
French term or phrase: régression assumée
I have already posted 'assumé' in another context but would welcome input here. It is about a theme park website, and the expectations of a certain consumer profile: ""Pour cela, ils attendent du site les ingrédients suivants:

Un bon équilibre entre…

…. L’universXXX de leur enfance: une régression assumée qui leur promet de retrouver les personnages qu’ils affectionnent

…. Et un univers plus adulte: frisson, aventure, sensations fortes, délire
ormiston
Local time: 20:55
deliberate/accepted return to childhood
Explanation:
I doubt whether anything too philosophical would go down well in a theme park, so...

Disneyfication (or nostalgia ain't what it used to be)
The sense of a return to childhood is the basic appeal of many Disney products, ... The growth of deliberate, synthetic nostalgia is closely linked with consumption; ... It is also the context in which products at the theme park will be ...
flag.blackened.net/af/org/issue51/disney.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages

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Le balancier du monde: la matière, la machine et la mort : essai ... - Google Books Result
by Jean-Claude Beaune - 2002 - Technology - 375 pages
... celui d'Héraclite sans doute, et Nietzsche n'a jamais voulu choisir entre la régression assumée et une nouvelle volonté d'existence. ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=2876733358...

L’ENCHANTEMENT DU CORPS CHEZ NIETZSCHE ET HUSSERL
- [ Translate this page ]
parenthe`ses les paradigmes de la «progression» et de la «régression» du vivant. .... Une tâche pleinement assumée par Deleuze et Guattari ...
www.springerlink.com/index/v7542083u7758312.pdf - Similar pages
by DESM LA MERVEILLE - Related articles - All 2 versions

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Nietzsche: An Introduction to the Understanding of His ... - Google Books Result
by Karl Jaspers, C. F. Wallraff, F. J. Schmitz - 1997 - Philosophy - 496 pages
... history is equivocal: it is neither sheer progression nor regression, but both. ... Nietzsche turns against this with his "new fundamental feeling: our ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0801857791...
#
Gregory Moore - Nietzsche, Spencer, and the Ethics of Evolution ...
As we have seen, the human being is for Nietzsche the only life-form that ..... both Espinas (who claims: "It is no regression, but rather a progression for ...
muse.jhu.edu/journals/journal_of_nietzsche_studies/v023/23.1moore.html - Similar pages
by G Moore - 2002 - Cited by 2 - Related articles
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PEP Web - Regression: Some General Considerations
Progression and regression do not take place in a vacuum. ..... In regression, a given high-level organizational state, being more open, less automatic, .... In direct contrast, Nietzsche (who was strongly influenced by the theory of evolution) .... gap In The Dilemma of Human Identity New York: Aronson, 1977 pp. ...
www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.050.0022a - Similar pages
by HW Loewald - 1981 - Cited by 32 - Related articles - All 3 versions

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EOtnEXHyYckC&pg=PR15&lpg=...
here

regression = moving towards the unconscious

Disneyfication (or nostalgia ain't what it used to be)
The sense of a return to childhood is the basic appeal of many Disney products, ... The growth of deliberate, synthetic nostalgia is closely linked with consumption; ... It is also the context in which products at the theme park will be ...
flag.blackened.net/af/org/issue51/disney.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages


even

nostalgia

could work
?

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Note added at 46 mins (2009-02-25 17:41:53 GMT)
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BTW

I suggested "accepted" because "assumé" does not always translate as "assumed" [in fact I think "assumed is unsuitable here :-)]. Please see Collins Robert if you have a copy!

Glad it has helped you!

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Note added at 59 mins (2009-02-25 17:54:10 GMT)
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It may be, but you're the one doing the translation and much depend on the whole tone you are giving this marketing text :-)

All the best to you with this job!

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-02-25 17:55:46 GMT)
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Hi

I have just had a thought...

this is a conscious return to childhood, i.e. done willingly:-0


Selected response from:

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:55
Grading comment
also thanks to all who battled with 'assumé' (Mathews' embrace, etc.) vey helpful
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4a nostalgic return to childhood
Anne-Marie Grant
3 +1deliberate/accepted return to childhoodliz askew
4embraced regressionMatthewLaSon
3a deliberate harking back
B D Finch
Summary of reference entries provided
Article on similar subject
Emma Paulay

Discussion entries: 1





  

Answers


27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
deliberate/accepted return to childhood


Explanation:
I doubt whether anything too philosophical would go down well in a theme park, so...

Disneyfication (or nostalgia ain't what it used to be)
The sense of a return to childhood is the basic appeal of many Disney products, ... The growth of deliberate, synthetic nostalgia is closely linked with consumption; ... It is also the context in which products at the theme park will be ...
flag.blackened.net/af/org/issue51/disney.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages

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Note added at 27 mins (2009-02-25 17:23:02 GMT)
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Le balancier du monde: la matière, la machine et la mort : essai ... - Google Books Result
by Jean-Claude Beaune - 2002 - Technology - 375 pages
... celui d'Héraclite sans doute, et Nietzsche n'a jamais voulu choisir entre la régression assumée et une nouvelle volonté d'existence. ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=2876733358...

L’ENCHANTEMENT DU CORPS CHEZ NIETZSCHE ET HUSSERL
- [ Translate this page ]
parenthe`ses les paradigmes de la «progression» et de la «régression» du vivant. .... Une tâche pleinement assumée par Deleuze et Guattari ...
www.springerlink.com/index/v7542083u7758312.pdf - Similar pages
by DESM LA MERVEILLE - Related articles - All 2 versions

#
Nietzsche: An Introduction to the Understanding of His ... - Google Books Result
by Karl Jaspers, C. F. Wallraff, F. J. Schmitz - 1997 - Philosophy - 496 pages
... history is equivocal: it is neither sheer progression nor regression, but both. ... Nietzsche turns against this with his "new fundamental feeling: our ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0801857791...
#
Gregory Moore - Nietzsche, Spencer, and the Ethics of Evolution ...
As we have seen, the human being is for Nietzsche the only life-form that ..... both Espinas (who claims: "It is no regression, but rather a progression for ...
muse.jhu.edu/journals/journal_of_nietzsche_studies/v023/23.1moore.html - Similar pages
by G Moore - 2002 - Cited by 2 - Related articles
#
PEP Web - Regression: Some General Considerations
Progression and regression do not take place in a vacuum. ..... In regression, a given high-level organizational state, being more open, less automatic, .... In direct contrast, Nietzsche (who was strongly influenced by the theory of evolution) .... gap In The Dilemma of Human Identity New York: Aronson, 1977 pp. ...
www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=paq.050.0022a - Similar pages
by HW Loewald - 1981 - Cited by 32 - Related articles - All 3 versions

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EOtnEXHyYckC&pg=PR15&lpg=...
here

regression = moving towards the unconscious

Disneyfication (or nostalgia ain't what it used to be)
The sense of a return to childhood is the basic appeal of many Disney products, ... The growth of deliberate, synthetic nostalgia is closely linked with consumption; ... It is also the context in which products at the theme park will be ...
flag.blackened.net/af/org/issue51/disney.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages


even

nostalgia

could work
?

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Note added at 46 mins (2009-02-25 17:41:53 GMT)
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BTW

I suggested "accepted" because "assumé" does not always translate as "assumed" [in fact I think "assumed is unsuitable here :-)]. Please see Collins Robert if you have a copy!

Glad it has helped you!

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Note added at 59 mins (2009-02-25 17:54:10 GMT)
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It may be, but you're the one doing the translation and much depend on the whole tone you are giving this marketing text :-)

All the best to you with this job!

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-02-25 17:55:46 GMT)
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Hi

I have just had a thought...

this is a conscious return to childhood, i.e. done willingly:-0




liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:55
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 18
Grading comment
also thanks to all who battled with 'assumé' (Mathews' embrace, etc.) vey helpful
Notes to answerer
Asker: Liz, very thorough, thank you, very helpful. Helen this is no treatise, mere marketing.

Asker: I also assumed that assumed is a 'faux ami' ! is 'unashamed' going too far?

Asker: Hi Liz just to say that I greatly respect your contributions - it is hard to award points fairly sometimes (as today)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Helen Shiner: Or even 'assumed return/regression to ...'. I assume this is an academic paper on the subject, though may be wrong.
2 mins

neutral  MatthewLaSon: Hi Liz, the glossary entry has no translation for "assumée." I agree with your entry for "régression. Have a nice day.
4 days
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
a deliberate harking back


Explanation:
e.g.
""For most adults, ice cream is a harking back to childhood innocence, the reward you used to get for being good, the exciting decision over what flavor to ..."
www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20066241,00.html

"There is a harking back to childhood for answers, for clarity, a time when things were simpler, easier to grasp. The resultant works have a sense of being ..."
www.axisweb.org/ofSARF.aspx?SELECTIONID=16418

B D Finch
France
Local time: 20:55
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 7
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
a nostalgic return to childhood


Explanation:
I think this gives the sense that it's a trip the customers are happy to make, which is what the French implies....

Anne-Marie Grant
Local time: 19:55
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Native speaker of: English
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
embraced regression


Explanation:
Hello,

When I said "taking on the regressive role", I was thinking of "embrace", but never wrote it. I should have gone with my instincts.

I'd keep with the word "regression" in English here.

assumée = freely accepted with no so shame


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The idea is like "coming to terms with", more or less.

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Note added at 1 day8 hrs (2009-02-27 01:18:01 GMT)
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or "embraced return to childhood", if "régression" is too formal in English.

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Note added at 1 day8 hrs (2009-02-27 01:20:21 GMT)
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Or "embracing one's inner child"

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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2009-02-27 02:00:37 GMT)
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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/829291/learning_to_...

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 14:55
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 11

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  liz askew: Trouble is "regression" has negative connotations.
1 day1 hr
  -> Thanks, Liz. I am still not sure about how to translate "regression." I've proprosed other options in my answer box. Also, "regression" may be too formal for this context. French seems to use sometimes in everday language, where we would never.
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Reference comments


15 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Article on similar subject

Reference information:
There are some useful phrases in this article that might fuel your imagination:

"unembarrassed embrace of his own immaturity"
"indulges our juvenile instincts"


    Reference: http://movies.nytimes.com/2004/11/19/movies/19spon.html?page...
Emma Paulay
France
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Note to reference poster
Asker: Emma, the whole text is packed with refreshingly snappy modernspeak, thanks! here though I may have to stay bland and talk about return to childhood rather than regression - it is just a Park website after all!

Asker: I'd love to post a separate glossary entry for 'assumé' (had it in a smokers context & it provoked much debate), i.e. possible translations = to fully accept, come to terms with, embrace, take on board; adj. conscious, unashamed


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  MatthewLaSon: "Embrace" is excellent for "assumée". That gives the idea of "free, unashamed acceptance". It's like "coming to terms with."
16 hrs
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Mar 2, 2009 - Changes made by liz askew:
Edited KOG entryormiston's old entry - "régression" => " return to childhood"


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