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French term or phrase:commercialisation vs. marketing
English translation:letting vs. marketing
Entered by: B D Finch
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13:15 May 26, 2008
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Real Estate
French term or phrase: commercialisation vs. marketing
I know there are two terms here, but I have to post them in a single question as the challenge is how to differentiate between these two FR terms in EN.

Under most circumstances, I would translate "commercialisation" as "marketing". However, I'm working on a property management contract where the two terms seem to have subtly different meanings, and I have a mental block about how to capture the nuance in EN.

An example from the text:

"Commercialisation de tout ou partie de l'Immeuble

Les obligations associées à la commercialisation de tout ou partie de l'Immeuble incluent notamment :

- Mettre en œuvre et coordonner l'élaboration d'un plan marketing et de commercialisation annuelle, avec la coopération des agents désignés par XXXX, qui comportera :

- les principes de commercialisation comprenant le loyer et les frais,

- la stratégie et le programme de marketing incluant le budget"

It seems to me that "commercialisation" here refers to "sales" - i.e. commercial activity resulting in finding tenants for the Property - except that I can't really uses "sales" in EN as the property is being leased and not sold. But I can't use "marketing" either, as that is used separately to refer to classic marketing activity (advertising, promotion etc.).

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Rob Grayson
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:18
letting vs. marketing
Explanation:
The letting agent's job includes both the actual letting of the premises to a tenant, i.e. the contract, rent collection, tenancy management and the marketing of the premises to get the tenant.

"Our web based approach to **letting and marketing** assists in giving you the most cost effective property letting and management solution. ..."
www.easylet.com

"It is all part of Paramount's innovative plan to provide a fresh approach to marketing and letting property. Vital as a great location is, in estate agency ..."
www.paramountmagazine.co.uk


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Note added at 1 hr (2008-05-26 15:03:30 GMT)
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"We provide a premier **letting** service, from the extensive **marketing** of the property and thorough vetting of tenants through to complete property management ...
martinco.com/bournemouth/lettings/home

One could argue , as the above agent does, that marketing is part of the letting service.
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B D Finch
France
Local time: 01:18
Grading comment
Thanks BD - "letting" is indeed the term I was looking for.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +3letting vs. marketing
B D Finch
4promotion and strategic marketingxxxwfarkas
4commercialization vs. marketing
Nadia Ayoub
3promotion vs marketingxxxBourth
3(In this case) Leasing vs Marketing
fourth


  

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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
promotion vs marketing


Explanation:
I suspect that "commercialisation" everything prior to actually "putting the property on the market", hence promotion, advertising, prereservation, public awareness at all levels, including making the name of the company known as much as if not more than the actual operation in progress, so that interested parties might show in interest in other operations years down the road.

xxxBourth
Local time: 01:18
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47 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(In this case) Leasing vs Marketing


Explanation:
May I suggest there are 2 things going on here?
Going out into the market place .
"Marketing"
and the end commercial product
"Leasing"

fourth
France
Local time: 01:18
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
letting vs. marketing


Explanation:
The letting agent's job includes both the actual letting of the premises to a tenant, i.e. the contract, rent collection, tenancy management and the marketing of the premises to get the tenant.

"Our web based approach to **letting and marketing** assists in giving you the most cost effective property letting and management solution. ..."
www.easylet.com

"It is all part of Paramount's innovative plan to provide a fresh approach to marketing and letting property. Vital as a great location is, in estate agency ..."
www.paramountmagazine.co.uk


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Note added at 1 hr (2008-05-26 15:03:30 GMT)
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"We provide a premier **letting** service, from the extensive **marketing** of the property and thorough vetting of tenants through to complete property management ...
martinco.com/bournemouth/lettings/home

One could argue , as the above agent does, that marketing is part of the letting service.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 01:18
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Grading comment
Thanks BD - "letting" is indeed the term I was looking for.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Emma Paulay: You're right, it's probably best to use the specific term.
47 mins
  -> Thanks Emma

agree  Sheila Wilson
1 hr
  -> Thanks Shiela

agree  Mark Nathan
6 hrs
  -> Thanks Mark
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
commercialization vs. marketing


Explanation:
Commercialization is the process of introducing a new product into the market. The actual launch of a new product is the final stage of new product development, and the one where the most money will have to be spent for advertising, sales promotion, and other marketing efforts.
See link below.

Example sentence(s):
  • Commercialization is often confused with sales, marketing or business development.

    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercialization
Nadia Ayoub
Egypt
Local time: 02:18
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
promotion and strategic marketing


Explanation:
promotion=commercialisation
strategic marketing=stratégie et le programme de marketing incluant le budget

xxxwfarkas
Canada
Local time: 19:18
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
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May 28, 2008 - Changes made by B D Finch:
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