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English translation: by the company itself


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French term or phrase:en propre
English translation:by the company itself
Entered by: Steve Melling
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22:08 Aug 1, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Real Estate
French term or phrase: en propre
Text talking about an organisation buying and managing properties:

"2,000 logements acquis en propre ou gérés pour le compte des propriétaires"
Steve Melling
France
Local time: 20:59
by the company itself
Explanation:
Another try, as I'm not sure whether answers given so far will fit perfectly. Maybe this won't either! :-)

"Company" could by replaced with "organisation", "association"...
Selected response from:

Sheila Wilson
Spain
Local time: 19:59
Grading comment
Thank you.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +2by the company itself
Sheila Wilson
4that we own
Jeux de Mots
3 +1owned outrightcc in nyc
4through us/through our services
AllegroTrans
3on its own account
Angus Stewart
4 -1in one's own right
Timothy Rake
3 -1personally ownedMatthewLaSon


Discussion entries: 1





  

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
on its own account


Explanation:
The text refers to dwellings which the organisation has acquired "on its own account" or is managing on behalf of other owners.

Angus Stewart
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
in one's own right


Explanation:
(as private property)


    Reference: http://btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-fra.html?lang=f...
Timothy Rake
Local time: 11:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  cc in nyc: "one" usually refers to a person, but here the owner is an organization.
6 hrs
disagree  Alan Douglas: "in its own right" would have made sense.
9 hrs
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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
through us/through our services


Explanation:
sensible everyday English needed

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 93
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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
en propre
owned outright


Explanation:
To yeild: owned outright or managed for other owners.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-08-02 02:04:43 GMT)
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Oof, I meant to post just "outright" as the target term. :o
Maybe that's obvious anyway. ;-)

cc in nyc
Local time: 14:59
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  rkillings: Or just 'owned (by us)'. In fact, 'outright' could give the wrong idea if the company has mortgaged any of the properties.
4 hrs
  -> Thank you. Yes, you are correct; "owned by us" would be better, but we don't know if this is 1st person perspective. (BTW, I think that "owned" is not sufficient because of what follows; "owned or managed for other owners" is IMO insufficiently parallel.)
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
that we own


Explanation:
I would probably rephrase a little to make it sound a little more natural.

For example,
2000 properties that we either own or manage on behalf of other owners.

Jeux de Mots
Germany
Local time: 20:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  writeaway: as suggested by rkillings /active or passive. why does the passive sound unnatural?
5 hrs
  -> rkillings suggests 'owned by us', which I don't think sounds as natural as my suggstion
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
by the company itself


Explanation:
Another try, as I'm not sure whether answers given so far will fit perfectly. Maybe this won't either! :-)

"Company" could by replaced with "organisation", "association"...

Sheila Wilson
Spain
Local time: 19:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 32
Grading comment
Thank you.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  cc in nyc: Sounds better than the other alternatives offered so far
5 hrs
  -> Thanks. So difficult without the context.
agree  piazza d
12 hrs
  -> Thanks
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
personally owned


Explanation:
Hello,

or managed for the owner...

That's what I may say.

en propre = personally owned (in this context)


I hope this helps.

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Note added at 5 days (2011-08-07 15:26:20 GMT) Post-grading
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any, in the Common Area and all personally owned by the Association, if any, insured against loss by perils under a multi-peril policy(ies) of hazard ...

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&...

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 14:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 104

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  cc in nyc: "personally owned" ... by an organization?//Organizations are not persons; "personally owned" is used to distinguish property owned by individuals from that owned by companies–e.g., http://www.lamp.ac.uk/policies/acceptableuse/personal-softwa...
21 mins
  -> Well that is link from the UK... At any rate, I'm know you can say this (look at my new link) in the US. If you are uncomfortable using it, then just say "owned by" (the "acquired" part would be clearly impied". Have a good day.
disagree  Alan Douglas: "acquired personally owned" makes no sense in context.
6 hrs
  -> No, I would have left "acquired" out, making it "housing properties personally owned by".
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