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English translation: offset


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14:27 Oct 4, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Real Estate / construction/real estate
French term or phrase: désafleurant
If someone could help me with a definition / translation of this adjective I'd be very grateful

In a geotechnical report about a villa that has suffered waterdamage

"Au sol, en partie arrière de la terrasse on observe une fissure plurimillimétrique
désafleurante indiquant une cassure de la terrasse dans le sens de la longueur."

if "fissure" is "crack" what is "désafleurante"?
Imogen Hancock
Local time: 19:59
English translation:offset
Explanation:
If you hold two boards of wood in the horizontal plane, one in each hand, so that their top surfaces form a continuous plane, the boards are said to affleurer, i.e. they are flush with the other.

Now, take a deep breath and keep holding those boards in that position. I will assume that one arm is stronger or, rather, has greater stamina, than the other, and that eventually one arm will drop slightly, causing the boards to désaffleurer, i.e. form a step or offset with respect to each other.
What has happened to your patio is rather more than just subsidence which, in theory at least, is a purely vertical movement, since in addition to the vertical offset (caused by subsidence), part of the slab has moved a number of millimetres horizontally. Though in practice subsidence will be said to cause this.

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A less tiring exercise would involve putting your two boards on pieces of dough so that they are perfectly plane and level. You then stand on one of them, compressing the dough beneath and causing one board to sink to a lower level than the other. This is your offset.

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Shrinkage cracks are not offset. That is, if you place a straightedge against them, there is no gap on either side of the crack against the straightedge. An OFFSET CRACK is an indication that perhaps there are some horizontal [what he means is "vertical"! – shrinkage cracks (above) involve horizontal forces, in floor slabs at any rate] forces at work that would warrant investigation. Common sense will tell you that a 1/32nd inch offset is probably not worth worrying about, but a ¼ inch offset is going to be a problem.
http://www.c2bforensics.com/concrete.htm

A: I was looking at a property that was for sale and it has a significant SETTLEMENT CRACK, so half the room is a little lower also. The gap difference in the crack is 1/4in and the heigh difference probably 3/8in
B: What you have is an OFFSET CRACK which means that the slab is severely compromised. If I were looking at this condo, I'd run - not walk - for the door.
http://forums.redfin.com/t5/forums/forumtopicprintpage/board...

1. shamrockrealestatellc.com/contact_us
Void under concrete foundation slab due to rain water run-off pattern on the property. A large/OFFSET CRACK (indicating a VERTICAL FAILURE OF THE CONCRETE SLAB) was ...



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DÉSAFFLEUREMENT - Décalage de niveau ou de nu entre deux parties d'un ouvrage, entres [sic!] deux pièces de bois assemblées, entre deux lames de parquet, etc.
DÉSAFFLEURER - Former saillie par rapport à un niveau de référence
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xxxBourth
Local time: 20:59
Grading comment
many thanks
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1offsetxxxBourth
4out of lineNatalie Koshman
4out of planeDidier Fourcot
4displaced crack
Kevin SC
4de-laminated
AllegroTrans
3subsiding/subsided
Ide Verhelst
3uneven
Catharine Cellier-Smart
Summary of reference entries provided
désaffleurerRoy vd Heijden

Discussion entries: 1





  

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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
uneven


Explanation:
my dictionary translates this as "out of level" or "projecting". I don't know about you but it sounds awkward to me, so rightly or wrongly I prefer "uneven", which is the translation given for "désaffleurement"

P.S. There should be two Fs

Catharine Cellier-Smart
Local time: 22:59
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
subsiding/subsided


Explanation:
Doesn't seem to be an official word, it's not in my dictionaries, nor is it in the online version of the "Trésor de la langue française".

But apparently it means that a side of the terrace has subsided.

Ide Verhelst
Local time: 20:59
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
de-laminated


Explanation:
Means the layers of the material have separated

Delamination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Delamination is a mode of failure for composite materials Modes of failure are also known as 'failure mechanisms'. In laminated materials, repeated cyclic stresses, impact ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delamination - Cached

bailey pageant caravan for sale - SupaPrice.co.uk
... front door The caravan has cascade water heater, gas heater, air conditioning, alarm and smoke alarm all fully working The floor is solid with no delamination, ceiling is ...
www.supaprice.co.uk/p/result.jsp?ga=uk7&q=bailey pageant... - Cached
Risk Management Services – Health & Safety – Asbestos ...
Water leaks, delamination (ceiling material peeling off of the surface), scrapes, gouges, etc. need to be repaired immediately. Outside contractors are usually not as well ...
risk.arizona.edu/healthandsafety/asbestosceilings.shtml - Cached
Current and reliable Boards & Panels news stories
Able to be scored and cut with standard utility knife, product provides flat and uniform substrate that resists delamination. Ceiling/Wall Tiles absorb sound using ...
news.thomasnet.com/news/architectural-civil-engineering/... - Cached


AllegroTrans
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  xxxBourth: Assuming the slab is no more sophisticated than ornery concrete, it is not a composite material. / Dunno what's happening to your driveway but I feel it is unlikely to be delamination. Scaling or spalling, maybe.
12 mins
  -> even "ornery concrete" can de-laminate, viz. my driveway

neutral  B D Finch: Not the meaning of désafleurant and concrete is not generally laminated. Your driveway concrete might be spalling?
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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
displaced crack


Explanation:
when one side of the crack is higher than the other

Kevin SC
France
Local time: 20:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  xxxBourth: Or both sides have moved away from each other, i.e. the crack is no longer closed, or have moved "lengthwise" (along the crack) to each other.
5 mins
  -> thanks for your comment

neutral  B D Finch: Agree with your explanation, but not your translation. A "displaced crack" sounds like a crack that should be somewhere else.
1 hr
  -> thanks for your comment
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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
offset


Explanation:
If you hold two boards of wood in the horizontal plane, one in each hand, so that their top surfaces form a continuous plane, the boards are said to affleurer, i.e. they are flush with the other.

Now, take a deep breath and keep holding those boards in that position. I will assume that one arm is stronger or, rather, has greater stamina, than the other, and that eventually one arm will drop slightly, causing the boards to désaffleurer, i.e. form a step or offset with respect to each other.
What has happened to your patio is rather more than just subsidence which, in theory at least, is a purely vertical movement, since in addition to the vertical offset (caused by subsidence), part of the slab has moved a number of millimetres horizontally. Though in practice subsidence will be said to cause this.

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Note added at 32 mins (2011-10-04 14:59:20 GMT)
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A less tiring exercise would involve putting your two boards on pieces of dough so that they are perfectly plane and level. You then stand on one of them, compressing the dough beneath and causing one board to sink to a lower level than the other. This is your offset.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 42 mins (2011-10-04 15:09:39 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Shrinkage cracks are not offset. That is, if you place a straightedge against them, there is no gap on either side of the crack against the straightedge. An OFFSET CRACK is an indication that perhaps there are some horizontal [what he means is "vertical"! – shrinkage cracks (above) involve horizontal forces, in floor slabs at any rate] forces at work that would warrant investigation. Common sense will tell you that a 1/32nd inch offset is probably not worth worrying about, but a ¼ inch offset is going to be a problem.
http://www.c2bforensics.com/concrete.htm

A: I was looking at a property that was for sale and it has a significant SETTLEMENT CRACK, so half the room is a little lower also. The gap difference in the crack is 1/4in and the heigh difference probably 3/8in
B: What you have is an OFFSET CRACK which means that the slab is severely compromised. If I were looking at this condo, I'd run - not walk - for the door.
http://forums.redfin.com/t5/forums/forumtopicprintpage/board...

1. shamrockrealestatellc.com/contact_us
Void under concrete foundation slab due to rain water run-off pattern on the property. A large/OFFSET CRACK (indicating a VERTICAL FAILURE OF THE CONCRETE SLAB) was ...



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Note added at 50 mins (2011-10-04 15:17:25 GMT)
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DÉSAFFLEUREMENT - Décalage de niveau ou de nu entre deux parties d'un ouvrage, entres [sic!] deux pièces de bois assemblées, entre deux lames de parquet, etc.
DÉSAFFLEURER - Former saillie par rapport à un niveau de référence
[Dicobat]

xxxBourth
Local time: 20:59
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many thanks

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: I really must try these experiments; should I wear a gas mask I wonder?
1 hr

agree  B D Finch
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
out of line


Explanation:
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Natalie Koshman
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
out of plane


Explanation:
The broken part of the deck is out of the original plane or out of the plane of the part that did not move.

Not very good wording in French, first there are 2 'f' for proper spelling of "désaffleurant", and second this is not so much a feature of the crack than a property of the broken and original part that are separated by this crack.


Didier Fourcot
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Reference comments


6 mins
Reference: désaffleurer

Reference information:
« Faire ressortir certaines parties d’une surface sur les autres »
(http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/désaffleurer)

Roy vd Heijden
Belgium
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
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