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4 +2 | chaplain |
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4 | former almoner |
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3 | chaplain of the ministers |
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1 +1 | comment - no help! |
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aumônier des ministres former almoner Explanation: the meaning of "des minsitres" will depend upon the context. here's the OED on ALMONER 1. An official distributor of the alms of another; the name of a functionary in a religious house, in the household of a bishop, prince, or other person of rank. Sometimes applied to the chaplain of a hospital, or other institution. In the royal household of Great Britain there is a titular Hereditary Grand Almoner besides the Lord High Almoner, and Sub-almoner, who are clergymen. c1300 Cursor M. 15219 Judas..Was iesu crist aumoner [v.r. aumener(e]. 1366 MAUNDEV. XIX. 210 Whan the covent of this abbeye hath eaten, the awmener let bere the releef to the gardyn. 1444 Polit. Poems II. 220 The awmeneer seyth he cam to late. 1494 FABYAN VII. 586 The lord of Awdeley amner, in stede of the erle of Cambrydge. 1548 HALL Chron. 790 Dr. Fox the Kynges Amner made an eloquent oracion in Latin. 1591 PERCIVALL Sp. Dict., Limosnero, an almener. 1630 R. BRATHWAIT Eng. Gent. (1641) 242 These deferre giving, till they cannot give, making their executors their almoners. 1647 HAWARD Crown Rev. 31 Gentleman Amner: Fee, 11l. 8s. 1d. ob.; Subamner: Fee, 6l. 16s. 10d. ob. 1654 LESTRANGE K. Charles I, 176 There came to London from Cardinal Richelieu..his Chaplain and Almner. 1667 E. CHAMBERLAYNE St. Gt. Brit. I. II. xii. (1743) 97 The Lord Almoner disposes of the king's alms. 1748 RICHARDSON Clarissa (1811) III. xxxvi. 209 He is now and then my almoner. 1867 J. MARTINEAU Chr. Life (ed. 4) 178 The almoner of God to the poor and sad. 1870 Daily News 10 Nov., The almoners of the Berliner Hülfsverein. 1483 CAXTON Gold. Leg. 124/3 He [saynt Johan] was called almosner or amener. 1553-87 FOXE A. & M. (1596) 1693/1 The almosiner, a phisition, and a surgeon to attend upon them. 1586 Wills & Inv. N.C. (1860) 134 To the almosiners of this towne of Middlesburghe. 1601 TATE tr. Househ. Ord. Ed. II, §19. 55 For the ausmoner & al under him. 1617 JAMES I Patent in Lib. Mun. Hib. I. ii. 81 To erect and establish an office of Almosner in this our realm of Ireland. 1528 MORE Heresyes I. Wks. 1557, 164/2 Doctor Mayo, sometyme almoygner to king Henry the seuenth. 1564 GRINDAL Fun. Serm. Wks. 1843, 32 The Bishop of Rochester, chiefe Almoygnor. 1598 STOW Surv. (ed. Strype 1754) II. ix. 718/1 All Almoisners and houses of Almoise. ?c1400 in Dom. Arch. III. 133 The aumere a rod schall haue in honde. c1430 LYDG. ibid. III. 133 Humble compassion was his awmerer. 1450 Old Will in Academy 27 Sept. (1882) 231/2 The thonne of ame the o almer and the tother of yame the tother almar. c1510 Bonaventura's Myrrour (Pynson) viii. Dj, Theyr amonerers or tresourers myght lightly have had it in hande. a1600 Mem. of Spottiswood 3 (Jam.) To stay with the queene and attend her Maiestie as her Almowr. 2. fig. 1822 B. CORNWALL Lys. & Ione 1 Iris..Is the Spring's almoner..and scatters Upon the subject world, dyed flowers and sweets. 1873 SIR J. HERSCHEL Pop. Lect. ii. §20. 62 The sun is the almoner of the Almighty. 3. One who gives alms largely; an alms-giver. Obs. or arch. 1303 R. BRUNNE Handl. Synne 5575 Seynt Joan e aumonere. 1340 Ayenb. 190 Ine e lyue of Ion e amoner. a1400 Relig. Pieces fr. Thornton MS. 53. Mercy hir syster salle be ambynowre at gyffes to alle. 1483 [See in 1]. 1580 BARET Alv. A365 An Amner, or giuer of almes, seemeth to be deriued of this French worde Aumosnier, and therefore ought rather to be written almonar. 1585 ABP. SANDYS Serm. (1841) 193 Who for his liberal relieving of the needy was surnamed the Almner. 1591 H. LOCKE in Farr S.P. I. 138 An amner to the poore that helpless cry. 1607 HIERON Wks. I. 389 [Dorcas] was a discreet, iust, compassionate, cheerefull, simple-hearted almoner. 1874 J. HOLLAND Mist. Manse ix. 156 Who found the largess in her palms And him the friendly almoner. |
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aumônier des ministres chaplain of the ministers Explanation: As described by the dictionary, a chaplain is a clergyman in charge of a chapel. In this instance, there could be more than one chaplain, and he is designated in charge specifically of the ministers. Hard to say without more background, but that would be my interpretation. Reference: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=chaplain&book=Dicti... |
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aumônier des ministres chaplain Explanation: He was the former chaplain among the ministers - chaplains often work in non-religious institutions (e.g. hospitals) whereas ministers work soley in churches etc. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 13 mins (2006-02-15 17:43:19 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- That should be *solely* :o) But I agree that the context should help more with the "des ministres" aspect. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 28 mins (2006-02-15 17:57:46 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Following on from Bourth's comment below, I'd also suggest "chaplain for the ministers" ;o) |
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23 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +1
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