sur pied

English translation: "sur pied" is a technical term in agriculture, before plants are harvested or cut.

10:50 Jul 2, 2000

French to English translations [PRO]
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French term or phrase: sur pied

I would be grateful if somebody could explain the use of the phrase "sur pied" in the following context:

"la plupart des plantes a pu etre identifiée sur pied, pour les autres 13 plantes il a été constitué un herbier, confié pour identification à Monsieur Aymonin, responsable du département de Phanérogamie au Muséum d'Histoire Naturelle".

I know that "sur pied" can mean "to set up" but this doesn't seem to work here. I believe the sentence is indicating that the majority of plants were identified "on foot", i.e where they were growing, whilst the others were identified in an herbarium that had been specially set up. I was wondering if I could use "in situ" on "on site" although the herbarium itself may also have been set up on site rather than in a museum.

Helen

English translation:"sur pied" is a technical term in agriculture, before plants are harvested or cut.

Explanation:
"vendre une récolte sur pied" is the example in my PLI. So, in the wild in its habitat, "in situ" would appear to be acceptable.

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rnoel (X)

Grading comment

Thank you for the example. I shall either translate the sentence as "the majority of plants were identified where they grew/stood" or simply "in situ".
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Summary of answers provided

"in the wild"

Béatrice Huret-Morton

"sur pied" is a technical term in agriculture, before plants are harvested or cut.

rnoel (X)

standing, uncut

Jesús Paredes

in the field

Heathcliff

as they stand

Telesforo Fernandez (X)

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28 mins

"in the wild"

Explanation:
I am not sure how to translate it, but the meaning is they haven't cut the plants.

Cheers,

Béa

Béatrice Huret-Morton
Local time: 09:20
Native speaker of:

French,

English
PRO pts in pair: 300

1 hr

"sur pied" is a technical term in agriculture, before plants are harvested or cut.

Explanation:
"vendre une récolte sur pied" is the example in my PLI. So, in the wild in its habitat, "in situ" would appear to be acceptable.

rnoel (X)
PRO pts in pair: 31

Grading comment

Thank you for the example. I shall either translate the sentence as "the majority of plants were identified where they grew/stood" or simply "in situ".

1 hr

standing, uncut

Explanation:
Le Robert&Collins. Also "standing corn", not yet cut (harvested). Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English........"Decay of Standing Trees in Natural Forests and Its Management

Reference: http://www.metla.com/conf/iufro95abs/d2pap90.htm

Jesús Paredes
Local time: 03:20
PRO pts in pair: 28

4 hrs

in the field

Explanation:
Not necessarily literally (although in this case it might well be), but as used in standard scientific parlance, i.e., as opposed to "under laboratory conditions" (which would include the herbier). -- HTH, HC

Heathcliff
United States
Local time: 00:20
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 953

12 hrs

as they stand

Explanation:
for other plants a herbarium has been set up to identify them, which means the vast majority of plants have been identifed as they stand.

Telesforo Fernandez (X)
Local time: 12:50
PRO pts in pair: 216

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