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La chasse aux 9.

English translation: "the quest for nines"


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15:45 Mar 13, 2009
French to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Science (general) / water filtration
French term or phrase: La chasse aux 9.
To explain the context, here is the text that follows: Cette tactique implique l’utilisation de méthodes d’analyse plus poussées pour permettre de prétendre à un pourcentage de réduction du contaminant plus élevé. Ainsi, tout est mis en œuvre pour atteindre le très peu réaliste 99.99%.

As per text. this is one of three actions undertaken by water filtration device manufacturers to sell their products. I have never heard of this "chasse aux 9" strategy. Is there an equivalent in English? If not, any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Sonia Gouin
Local time: 17:39
English translation:"the quest for nines"
Explanation:
I notice that your quoted text refers to 99.99% or "4 nines" although other answerers are referring to 5 nines. So I don't think the number of nines is necessarily relevant.
Filter performance is quoted either as % or as a log value. For example, 99.999% would be 10(5) [10 to power 5]. They can be hard to interpret - 99.999% is TEN times better than 99.99%, which is TEN times better than 99.9%, and so on. As log (or so-called "titre or log reduction" values), these three efficiencies become 10(5), 10(4) and 10(3), making the differences easier to interpret.
When I worked in the filter industry, which I did for 24 years, I dealt with titre reduction values for sterilising filters of > 10(13), in other numbers, 99.99999999999% (13 9's). This becomes essential since bacteria grow, so in theory even one passing through the filter could grow to produce many billions by the time an injectable drug reaches your arm!

I never came across this actual phase but the sense of your text made me think of the "Quest for the Holy Grail".
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Simon Cole
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:39
Grading comment
I was first tempted to go with "aiming for five nines" since it is a common expression in the industry but you have convinced me that the number of nines is not relevant. Thanks so much.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3"the quest for nines"
Simon Cole
4 +2aiming for five nines
SJLD
4Aiming for Four Nineslkwon
4Hunting for nines (99.99%) or reaching for the best quality or highest rate of decontamination
Drmanu49


  

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Hunting for nines (99.99%) or reaching for the best quality or highest rate of decontamination


Explanation:
IMO

Drmanu49
Local time: 23:39
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45 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
"the quest for nines"


Explanation:
I notice that your quoted text refers to 99.99% or "4 nines" although other answerers are referring to 5 nines. So I don't think the number of nines is necessarily relevant.
Filter performance is quoted either as % or as a log value. For example, 99.999% would be 10(5) [10 to power 5]. They can be hard to interpret - 99.999% is TEN times better than 99.99%, which is TEN times better than 99.9%, and so on. As log (or so-called "titre or log reduction" values), these three efficiencies become 10(5), 10(4) and 10(3), making the differences easier to interpret.
When I worked in the filter industry, which I did for 24 years, I dealt with titre reduction values for sterilising filters of > 10(13), in other numbers, 99.99999999999% (13 9's). This becomes essential since bacteria grow, so in theory even one passing through the filter could grow to produce many billions by the time an injectable drug reaches your arm!

I never came across this actual phase but the sense of your text made me think of the "Quest for the Holy Grail".

Simon Cole
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
I was first tempted to go with "aiming for five nines" since it is a common expression in the industry but you have convinced me that the number of nines is not relevant. Thanks so much.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  SJLD: my first ref mentions the Holy Grail - in comparison with your experience the 99,99% of the French text seems totally wimpy! :-)
43 mins

agree  Sheila Wilson: I like "quest"
4 hrs

agree  Lingua 5B
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24 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
aiming for five nines


Explanation:
five nines reliability/availability is a common expression

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Note added at 26 mins (2009-03-13 16:12:17 GMT)
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of course you'll have to change the 99,99% to 99.999% for it to make sense

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-03-13 17:15:13 GMT)
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or if that can't be changed, "aiming for four nines"

SJLD
Local time: 23:39
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agree  bowse123
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agree  xxx::::::::::
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Aiming for Four Nines


Explanation:
If the text specifies 99.99%, then they are aiming for four nines. The expression simply varies with the reliability or availability being aimed for.


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lkwon
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  SJLD: see my note at 1hr
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