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Avarie de propulsion + avarie de barre

English translation: Motor/rudder malfunction

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16:55 May 6, 2011

French to English translations [PRO]
Ships, Sailing, Maritime

French term or phrase: Avarie de propulsion + avarie de barre

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Agirard KudoZ activity Questions: 5 (none open) Answers: 16
Local time: 22:40

English translation:Motor/rudder malfunction

Explanation:
World's CAR FERRIES20 posts - 6 authors - Last post: 13 Apr 2010
Yes, in my career, I have had my fair shares of accidents and black out's (ship fire, rudder malfunction, propulsion failures, ...
www.captainsvoyage-forum.com/showthread.php?403-World-s... - Cached

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Summary of answers provided

propulsion breakdown + steering gear breakdown

Graham macLachlan

engine failure + rudder failure

Drmanu49

Power problem and rudder problem

Michel F. Morin

loss of propulsion + loss of helm/steerage

Clive Phillips

Motor/rudder malfunction

Oliver Toogood

power damage + rudder damage

silvester55

Answers

2 mins confidence:

engine failure + rudder failure

Explanation:
Most systems fail to specifically match the escort tug's ability to apply ... the ship's engine fails as opposed to total system failure including engine, ... suffers a hard over rudder failure before the ship touches the grounding line ...
www.towingsolutionsinc.com/technology-escort_planning.html -

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or steering failure.

MAIN ENGINE OR STEERING FAILURE | Maritime Information
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16 Mar 2008 ... In case of a steering failure: Inform engine room; Engage emergency steering; Take way off the ship; Prepare engines for maneuvering ...
maritimeknowledge.info/main-engine-or-steering-failure

Drmanu49
Local time: 23:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

French
PRO pts in category: 154

7 mins confidence:

Power problem and rudder problem

Explanation:
Il me semble que "failure" est trop... définitif ! IMHO, avec une "avarie", le bateau peut continuer à naviguer. Avec une "failure", non !

For "avarie" = "problem", see Web.Ref.

Reference: http://www.wordreference.com/fren/avarie

Michel F. Morin
France
Local time: 23:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 39

20 mins confidence:

Motor/rudder malfunction

Oliver Toogood
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

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55 mins confidence:

power damage + rudder damage

Explanation:
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avarie: WordReference English-French Dictionary © 2011

avarie nf damage

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Business, Collins, Collaborative Dictionary
avarie n f damage, average

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avarie (n.)
average, damage
http://dictionary.sensagent.com/avarie/fr-en/

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An attempt to winch it free while jacking over the engine slowly resulted in damage to the rudder post and aft propeller bearing. After the storm, Calypso ....

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> avarie
(nom féminin).

Dommage subi par un navire ou son chargement.

silvester55
Local time: 00:40
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 4

5 hrs confidence:

loss of propulsion + loss of helm/steerage

Explanation:
Propulsion can be supplied by sail as well as by engine.
Helm or steerage is the ability to steer a craft with or without engine.
The context here is probably a ship but as a matter of interest, rudderless steering of a yacht is possible in an emergency:
"Most boats will sail rudderless with the main half on, and a small jib, in a reasonable line, using the mainsheet control for the steering. To go upwind, bring the mainsheet on, and if necessary the traveller up. To go away, do the opposite."

Reference: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Rudder+less%3A+many+dangers+lu...

Clive Phillips
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:40
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 8

15 hrs confidence:

propulsion breakdown + steering gear breakdown

Explanation:
I'm surprised the moderators haven't pounced on you because you've asked two questions here. Maybe they're having a day off ;-)

Anyway, if we are talking about "emergencies" then I think "failure" or "breakdown" are suitable translations for "avarie". In the case of an event, "damage" may well be the right word.

It's tempting to agree with Dr Manu and his translations "engine" and "rudder" however the terms "propulsion" and "barre" aren't limited to two particular parts but to two whole systems (e.g. propulsion = engine, shaft, propeller, etc.)

DCNS give "steering gear breakdown" for "avaries de barre" in their glossary. They don't mention "avarie de propulsion" although they translate "propulsion" as "propulsion".

Graham macLachlan
Local time: 23:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 340

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