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Expression de la pensée sociale sur le terrorisme et phénomènes d'implication

English translation: Expression of social thinking


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French term or phrase:Expression de la pensée sociale sur le terrorisme et phénomènes d'implication
English translation:Expression of social thinking
Entered by: Andreea Vintila
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16:07 Sep 7, 2008
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French term or phrase: Expression de la pensée sociale sur le terrorisme et phénomènes d'implication
Bonjour,

Dans "Expression de la pensée sociale sur le terrorisme et phénomènes d'implication", c'est surtout l'"expression" qui me pose problème : en français, le substantif semble faire sens (comme dans "modalités d'expression de la pensée sociale"), mais en anglais il semble sonner faux!

Pour pensée sociale, j'ai toujours débattu entre "social thought" et "social thinking" : il y a des textes et articles en nombre pour chacun. Qu'en pensez-vous?

Au fond, le problème semble le même dans les deux cas :
- expression : "expression" (substantif) ou "expressing" ? ;
- pensée sociale : "social thought" (substantif) ou "social thinking"?

Pourriez-vous me conseiller? Merci beaucoup.
Andreea Vintila
Local time: 23:44
Expression of social thinking
Explanation:
I'm presuming this is a title and this is what I would spontaneously say without any more context
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lundy
France
Local time: 23:44
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Thanks again Lundy for your helpful input.
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4 +2Expression of social thinking
lundy
4social commentaryenloude
3 +1expression of social thought
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro


  

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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Expression of social thinking


Explanation:
I'm presuming this is a title and this is what I would spontaneously say without any more context

lundy
France
Local time: 23:44
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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Thanks again Lundy for your helpful input.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Writeway!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: since thinking implies the process, I think it's more likely. Checking on the www may prove very useful
12 mins
  -> thanks!

agree  roisin56: thinking feels better here as it permits a plurality of lines/courses of thought whereas 'thought' indicates one line of thought
4 hrs
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
expression of social thought


Explanation:
:)

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Note added at 22 mins (2008-09-07 16:30:14 GMT)
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... on terrorism and involvement phenomena"

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-09-07 20:20:29 GMT)
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Répondant à la question que me pose writeaway, je choisis le substantif par analogie: "marxist thought", "philosophical thought", "collective thought" = "la pensée marxiste, philosophique, collective" vs. "le penser marxiste, philosophique, collectif"
En ce sens google est d'ailleurs indiscutable: plus de 70 pages pour "la pensée" (marxiste, philosophique ou collective) contre 1 a 3 entrées et 3 pages pour "le penser"

Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Spain
Local time: 23:44
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Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, BeaRH


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  writeaway: based on what?
35 mins
  -> on analogous uses of the term

agree  gad
4 hrs
  -> Thanks, gad:)
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Expression de la pensée sociale sur le terrorisme et phénomènes d\'implication
social commentary


Explanation:
What is the expression of social thought if not social commentary? Just as "expression de la pensée critique" would be simply criticism -I believe, anyway!

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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-09-07 21:40:45 GMT)
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Yup, I was wrong.

Note: social thinking appears to be the term you are after - referring to how human beings perceive each other, the thoughts that drive human interactions etc.

Social thought on the other hand refers to theory (e.g. individualism, humanism cd be schools of social thought...)

Without more context it's hard to say which one you need!






"social thought" refers more to social theories




enloude
Local time: 17:44
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Native speaker of: English
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, enloude. Social thinking actually is expressed in specific ways ; you are right-all sorts of social communications : rumors, propaganda, etc., but not only. It also refers to social representations, reasoning canevasses, stereotypes, -- which is somewhat where the difficulty comes from in translating it. Another perspective on social thinking gave "social cognition", which is the more "American" side of the social psychology.

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