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logiques sociales

English translation: social conditioning


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22:12 Sep 12, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
French term or phrase: logiques sociales
Text on photographer Olivier Culmann:
Olivier Culmann a photographié à travers le monde les téléspectateurs devant leurs écrans et leurs téléviseurs. Constat de l’état des corps et des âmes face aux échos du monde filtrés par les écrans. Sur le fil d’une subjectivité revendiquée s’égrainent les questions récurrentes de la liberté humaine et de son conditionnement. A travers son observation anti-ethnographique de ces passages imposés d’une vie moderne, il interroge avant tout le mystère de nos ***logiques sociales*** et des moyens d’y échapper.
Fiona McBrearty
Local time: 21:02
English translation:social conditioning
Explanation:
behaviour patterns

logique can often be rationale but I doubt it here
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polyglot45
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Yup, that fits perfectly, thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3social schemas
John Detre
3 +2social conditioningpolyglot45
4social logic
Just Opera
4assumptions/preconceptions about societyphilgoddard
3 +1the chains of our societyJoshua Pepper
3social mindsetcc in nyc


  

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assumptions/preconceptions about society


Explanation:
Or social assumptions/preconceptions/stereotypes

"Logique" is one of those words that can mean almost anything you want it to, but here's a few suggestions.

philgoddard
Local time: 14:02
Native speaker of: English
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the chains of our society


Explanation:
Just a suggestion, but bear with me as I explain where I'm coming from:

In the context of social determinism, living inside a society conditions its members, who then can only act/think inside the society's own frame of thought, its "logique".

Thus, I think that "nos logiques sociales" means "how we perpetuate our own society by acting as we were taught", and I attempt to render this meaning with a translation that suggests that society limits us.

There may be a better way of expressing this in English, but that is what I understand it to mean.

Note that the next part of the sentence, about "escaping", might be seen to confirm this interpretation.

Joshua Pepper
Local time: 20:02
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  jfootnick: I agree with your interpretation but wouldn't 'social conditioning'( see polyglot45) then be a good translation?
2 days17 hrs
  -> Yes, polyglot45 expressed nicely what I was trying to say. Thanks :)
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social mindset


Explanation:
Another possibility. ;-)

cc in nyc
Local time: 15:02
Works in field
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social logic


Explanation:
The obvious literal translation.

Figurative meaning of logiques (logic) in French: Manière particulière de raisonner.

Here to mean how and why we make choices in society (what our logic is / why we reason and what influences us and how we can escape from this) relating to the English sense of logic as "a system or set of principles underlying the arrangements of elements... as to perform a particular task"


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Note added at 7 hrs (2011-09-13 05:48:44 GMT)
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or "logic of society" = how it works is maybe even closer to the meaning here

Just Opera
Belgium
Local time: 21:02
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social schemas


Explanation:
maybe

John Detre
Canada
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Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Simo Blom
1 hr
  -> thanks Simo

agree  writeaway
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agree  Melissa McMahon: Nice!
6 hrs
  -> thanks Melissa
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social conditioning


Explanation:
behaviour patterns

logique can often be rationale but I doubt it here

polyglot45
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
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Yup, that fits perfectly, thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Simo Blom
7 mins

agree  jfootnick
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