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ce n'est pas mettre la vie en équation, mais en adéquation

English translation: is a matter not of equations but of approximations


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19:56 Jan 5, 2012
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French term or phrase: ce n'est pas mettre la vie en équation, mais en adéquation
I doubt there is a published translation of this piece of wisdom. Can anybody come up with something equally pithy? I usually love this sort of thing!

"Ne pas oublier que l’économie est avant tout à la croisée de sciences humaines (sociologie, psychologie, etc …) et que les modèles quantitatifs n’en sont qu’une tentative d’explication. Ce sont les comportements qui sont traduits dans les modèles et non les modèles qui conditionnent les comportements. Delatour, ce jeune philosophe le décrit fort bien lorsqu’il dit que « vivre ensemble ce n’est pas mettre la vie en équation, mais en adéquation ».
ormiston
Local time: 21:03
English translation:is a matter not of equations but of approximations
Explanation:
Keep the word 'equation' and settle for a rhyme. It's about forgoing the exact for the close enough.

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See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_the_second_best ;-)

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être en équation = be equal to
être en adéquation = be a match for

exact vs. good enough
A translating maxim? That too.

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A good place for some adequation here ("adequation n. 4. A semantic process whereby the meaning of a word or phrase changes under the influence of the type of context in which it typically occurs.").

As kashew was suggesting. ;-)
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Summary of answers provided
4is not modeling life with equations but achieving adequacytranscimed
4is a matter not of equations but of approximationsrkillings
4fitting in with the world, not making the world fit in with usphilgoddard
4not about harmonizing formulas, but rather about formalizing harmonycc in nyc
4'Life is not about making us equal, it is about finding concordance'
Dr Lofthouse
3living together is not a matter of imposing models but
SJLD
3it's not a matter of turning life into a set of formulas, but rather achieving harmonymimi 254
2living together is about harmonisation, not equationsMatthewLaSon


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fitting in with the world, not making the world fit in with us


Explanation:
I think it's something along these lines: in other words, you can't argue with reality, so you might as well try and live with it and understand it. It's a bit like the idea that dictionaries should describe, not prescribe.

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living together is not a matter of imposing models but


Explanation:
of seeking harmony



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'Life is not about making us equal, it is about finding concordance'


Explanation:
Because:...
Adequation
1. The act of equalizing; act or result of making adequate; an equivalent. 3 synonyms = accord, adaptation, concordance.

Equation
1. The state of being equal.




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or 'living together is not about making us equal, but about finding concordance'

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not about harmonizing formulas, but rather about formalizing harmony


Explanation:
That's my try at following kashew's suggestion.

Or, alternately, "not a matter of... , but rather a matter of... "

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On second thought:

it's not about harmonizing formulas, but rather about formalizing harmonies

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Note added at 12 hrs (2012-01-06 08:23:06 GMT)
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Sorry, third thought:

it's not about harmonizing formulas, but rather about formulating harmonies

(sigh)

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is not modeling life with equations but achieving adequacy


Explanation:
living together is not modeling life with equations but achieving adequacy
Harmony sounds too optimistic compared to adequacy

transcimed
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it's not a matter of turning life into a set of formulas, but rather achieving harmony


Explanation:
another try

it's not a matter of making life a set of formulas, but rather, achieving harmony

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52 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
is a matter not of equations but of approximations


Explanation:
Keep the word 'equation' and settle for a rhyme. It's about forgoing the exact for the close enough.

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Note added at 57 mins (2012-01-05 20:53:51 GMT)
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See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_the_second_best ;-)

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être en équation = be equal to
être en adéquation = be a match for

exact vs. good enough
A translating maxim? That too.

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Note added at 5 days (2012-01-10 20:01:22 GMT) Post-grading
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A good place for some adequation here ("adequation n. 4. A semantic process whereby the meaning of a word or phrase changes under the influence of the type of context in which it typically occurs.").

As kashew was suggesting. ;-)

rkillings
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Notes to answerer
Asker: your note sounds like a translating maxim! btw your link drew a blank

Asker: me too, it sums up pretty well my reading of it (i.e. it's a question of a good match rather than a perfect fit)

Asker: so you go more for my own interpretation above - a good match rather than an exact fit ?


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agree  cc in nyc: I like this one more and more.
16 hrs

disagree  transcimed: Believe me, I don't want to argue too much, but approximation is not appropriate here. Etre en adéquation = being in good match with other people = vivre ensemble = in adequacy with others
4 days
  -> Care to explain "in adequacy with"?
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living together is about harmonisation, not equations


Explanation:
Hello,

Might that work?

You can't expect to make a mathematical formula out of living together (magical forumula: this + that - those/these = happiness; the goal is to just top learn how to cohabitate in harmony).

I was trying to plug life into an equation that doesn't exist. I was creating my own anxiety and disfunction and blaming it on my circumstances.

http://thethreedsddd.blogspot.com/2011/04/life-is-not-equati...


I hope this helps.

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Trying to keep a little rhyming in there as is in the French. LOL.

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Perhaps I'd rather say:

Living together is about life in harmonisation, not equations.

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I do not think that "harmonisation" is too strong here.

You might also say "Living together is not about making life into equation but a compatible situation" (you can't try to obtain happiness or good cohabitation situation with a magical mathematical equation).



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In other words, good cohabitation doesn't come from mathematical formulas from models etc but simply compability.

"Living together is not about turning life into an equation but a compatible situation"



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