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French to English translations [PRO] Sports / Fitness / Recreation / motor rallying
French term or phrase:carnet de pointage
Context: a caption for a set of illustrations in an article about motor racing. So, not a lot of help, I'm afraid...
The picture shows some sort of logbook, presumably used for the competitors' times to be entered. But I have no idea what this would be called in English! It's headed "Carnet No 34", followed by the name of the club that's organising the rally, the name of the rally (Paris-St Raphael) and the date (18-22 Feb 1931)
I'd be most grateful if anybody could help with the official name of this document, as used in rallies. Many thanks!
Explanation: Presumably this is an "orienteering" type rally, not a "point to point" where all that matters is starting and finishing time.
When you get to a checkpoint, you have you get your log time-stamped (or the official stamps his own log of participants who have been through the checkpoint, or both).
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I take that back, sort of. If it IS a "carnet" then you really need something with "book", I feel, but the expression - these days at least - appears to be "time card", though there is also "road book" and, possibly less authoritatively, "rally book".
Records of the passing of each checkpoint are sent on to rally .... start times listed on their TIME CARDS, which are stamped at each checkpoint passed. ... www.finstral-rally.com/content.php?id=310
There are three types of CHECKPOINTS:
- Usual checkpoints:
In a time slot specified for each checkpoint, (slot of 2 or 3 hours in general), each crew have to go to the place indicated on the ROAD-BOOK in order to stamp it. http://www.pariscapnord.com/page.php?listtag=DEFINITION,RAID...
I did a U-turn and went back and got a nice dark stamp in the RALLY BOOK. ...
whitespider.broeking.com/fite.htm
Check Point (CP): A special stage is equipped with several check points where the riders get a stamp in their TIME CARD. The check points prove that a rider ... www.webbikeworld.com/2007-dakar-rally/
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The roadbook contains instructions on the route, the checkpoints to be gone through, and the TIMING (carnet de pointage???) to reach those checkpoints. Maybe this is what your book is. Of course nothing would prevent the road book and the time card being combined, but normally they would be separate.
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On doit toujours être pile à la moyenne imposée à l’instant donné. C’est ce qui permet d’établir un classement qui se fait par addition de points de pénalité. Si par malheur on est trop rapide, on accumule assez rapidement les pénalités voire la disqualification. Sur un petit CARNET DE POINTAGE qui accompagne la voiture et son équipage sont notés tous les évènements importants : départ, arrivée, retards, pénalités et même les contraventions distribuées par la maréchaussée.
Rarement l’épreuve comporte des lignes droites, c’est toujours plutôt des lacets, des montées, des descentes et des épingles. Quand on traverse un village, la moyenne cible tombe à 30 km/h, donc faut donc calculer sa moyenne et se recaler sur son ROAD BOOK....C’est alors que les calculettes moulinent, les instructions fusent : « encore 4 km, on sort de la spéciale, on est 15 secondes trop vite, ravitaillement dans 12 kilomètres…. ». Il http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rallye_de_régularité
Takes me back to school days when I was in the Car Club, acting as timekeeper, clipboard and stopwatch in hand, Dad at the wheel, and a school mate as navigator. Whenever I got it wrong, it was because I had "forgotten" there are only 60 seconds in a minute or minutes in an hour, not 100!
many thanks Bourth! I think this is indeed about time cards, used during the rallies. Despite W/A, I don't think I'd ever have come up with this without yr help 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer
Writeaway: if you think this should be non-pro, then presumably the answer is quite obvious to you. Would you mind sharing your knowledge with the rest of us, please! That would make a far more positive contribution!
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9 mins confidence:
Tally book
Explanation: Used in transport (according to the GDT of Quebec). Maybe this is what you are looking for.
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A propos:
score card
la carte des points, la fiche des scores
Gad Kohenov Local time: 22:07 Works in field Native speaker of: French, Hebrew PRO pts in category: 8
Explanation: Presumably this is an "orienteering" type rally, not a "point to point" where all that matters is starting and finishing time.
When you get to a checkpoint, you have you get your log time-stamped (or the official stamps his own log of participants who have been through the checkpoint, or both).
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr (2008-09-22 20:00:45 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
I take that back, sort of. If it IS a "carnet" then you really need something with "book", I feel, but the expression - these days at least - appears to be "time card", though there is also "road book" and, possibly less authoritatively, "rally book".
Records of the passing of each checkpoint are sent on to rally .... start times listed on their TIME CARDS, which are stamped at each checkpoint passed. ... www.finstral-rally.com/content.php?id=310
There are three types of CHECKPOINTS:
- Usual checkpoints:
In a time slot specified for each checkpoint, (slot of 2 or 3 hours in general), each crew have to go to the place indicated on the ROAD-BOOK in order to stamp it. http://www.pariscapnord.com/page.php?listtag=DEFINITION,RAID...
I did a U-turn and went back and got a nice dark stamp in the RALLY BOOK. ...
whitespider.broeking.com/fite.htm
Check Point (CP): A special stage is equipped with several check points where the riders get a stamp in their TIME CARD. The check points prove that a rider ... www.webbikeworld.com/2007-dakar-rally/
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 hrs (2008-09-22 20:06:27 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
The roadbook contains instructions on the route, the checkpoints to be gone through, and the TIMING (carnet de pointage???) to reach those checkpoints. Maybe this is what your book is. Of course nothing would prevent the road book and the time card being combined, but normally they would be separate.
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 hrs (2008-09-22 20:11:17 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
On doit toujours être pile à la moyenne imposée à l’instant donné. C’est ce qui permet d’établir un classement qui se fait par addition de points de pénalité. Si par malheur on est trop rapide, on accumule assez rapidement les pénalités voire la disqualification. Sur un petit CARNET DE POINTAGE qui accompagne la voiture et son équipage sont notés tous les évènements importants : départ, arrivée, retards, pénalités et même les contraventions distribuées par la maréchaussée.
Rarement l’épreuve comporte des lignes droites, c’est toujours plutôt des lacets, des montées, des descentes et des épingles. Quand on traverse un village, la moyenne cible tombe à 30 km/h, donc faut donc calculer sa moyenne et se recaler sur son ROAD BOOK....C’est alors que les calculettes moulinent, les instructions fusent : « encore 4 km, on sort de la spéciale, on est 15 secondes trop vite, ravitaillement dans 12 kilomètres…. ». Il http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rallye_de_régularité
Takes me back to school days when I was in the Car Club, acting as timekeeper, clipboard and stopwatch in hand, Dad at the wheel, and a school mate as navigator. Whenever I got it wrong, it was because I had "forgotten" there are only 60 seconds in a minute or minutes in an hour, not 100!
xxxBourth Local time: 21:07 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 114
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many thanks Bourth! I think this is indeed about time cards, used during the rallies. Despite W/A, I don't think I'd ever have come up with this without yr help
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Run the Stage:
1. Get a time for every car
2. Log finish time, calculate elapsed time, enter ET on score card
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Give timing logs to Course Closing car
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Be prepared to deal with service crews who need to retrieve their broken rally cars.
◊ Retrieve all signs (including road closure sign) and ribbon in the vicinity of the finish.
◊ Return equipment and materials to Equipment Manager
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