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English translation: \"trunk\" riders


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French term or phrase:les pilotes \"malles\"
English translation:\"trunk\" riders
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10:44 Feb 3, 2010
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French term or phrase: les pilotes "malles"
This is only a questionnaire. Sorry about that. Example found below is:
"les pilotes avec une malle de 200 litres et une paire de roue."

The idea of "reservoir", "boot" extending to a further idea of being "self-sufficient" or "minimal support"

But how is it actually expressed I wonder?
fourth
France
Local time: 21:08
"trunk" riders
Explanation:
Drivers/riders?

Does pilote refer here to car drivers or bike riders? In both cases I suppose the support system of the rally organizers carries their belongings, presumably in a trunk or trunks. For the cars, they'd probably refer to the co-driver/navigator too, and his trunk. And cars would probably have more spares. So I tend to think this refers to bike riders, many of whom will be minimalist, with what is presumably a small trunk containing changes of clothes, their toothbrush, etc. and just a couple of spare wheels.

Drivers / riders in a manufacturer's team undoubtedly have all mod-cons transported for them in vast quantities by their support crew, so would not be pilotes "malles".

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Note added at 51 mins (2010-02-03 11:35:44 GMT)
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Avec la course à l’armement, inévitable, qui a commencé dès le début, 3-4 ans après la création, le modernisme, les assistances, le GPS, qui a totalement changé le Dakar, et la fragilité des motos, le nombre de « PILOTES MALLES » n’était que de 15 au départ cette année.
CE SONT DES PILOTES QUI PARTENT AVEC LEUR MOTO, UNE MALLE DE 200 LITRES ET UNE PAIRE DE ROUE. Il faut bien savoir que cette malle avec les roues aurait représenté un véritable luxe pour 95% des pilotes qui partaient il y a une bonne vingtaine d’années.
[ ... ]
Hors [sic!] un privé aurait besoin d’une moto dont le moteur peut faire 9000 kms sans rien toucher.
L’an prochain, ce sera des 450cc pour tout le monde et nous savons qu’il n’y a pas, malgré ce que l’on veut nous dire, un constructeur qui fabrique une 450 capable de faire le Dakar sans une énorme préparation.
Ces 15 pilotes repartiront-ils en CATÉGORIE « MALLES », SI ELLE EXISTE ENCORE ?
Cela implique une assistance, donc un coup supplémentaire, 4, 5 ou 6000 euros selon les offres, plus des pièces coûteuses, à mettre au bout de la note.
http://moto.caradisiac.com/Dakar-2010-les-pilotes-males-en-v...

C’est ce qu’on appelle un « PILOTE MALLE », JUSTE LA MALE [SIC!] DE L’ORGANISATION ET UNE PAIRE DE ROUES. Il espère cette année être dans les tous premiers du « Challenge pilote malle »
http://moto.caradisiac.com/Pierrick-Bonnet-sa-participation-...

Typical DAKAR day. 5:00 W ake-up call, STOWING TENT AND BELONGINGS INTO TRUNK. 5:20 Breakfast (ample!!) Collect rations and water for the day (possi- ...
www.dakar.com/2009/DAK/presentation/.../part_journee_type_u...

Thats what came off the spare bike and it all had to go into a secure box which needed to fit into the STANDARD ISSUE STEEL TRUNK WHICH IS CARRIED AROUND ON THE PLANE FROM BIVOUAC TO BIVOUAC. [ ... ] Maximum weight allowed for the TRUNK is 50kg and the officials do weigh it before allowing it on the plane for the first time, after that you can add to it and nobody checks the weight again.
Thats a good thing as my TRUNK weighs in at 49.8 kg without anything other than the spares in it.
This means that anything else i need in the PLANE TRUNK such as a sleeping bag, extra clothing, towel, wash bag, energy rations will have to be sneaked in later and be carried on one of the assistance vehicles for the first couple of days until we head into Morocco.
http://duncansdakar.blogspot.com/

For Pierre the Dakar is a story about men setting off on adventure with a SINGLE TRUNK AS BAGGAGE
http://www.dakar.com/2009/DAK/RIDERS/us/equipage/99.html

"Not too long ago I was riding on the DAKAR as an AMATEUR with A TRUNK OF SPARE PARTS AND A HANDFUL OF TIRES," said Casteu. "Now to finish second overall and cross the beach at Lac Rose in a podium position is a dream for me. It was a tough race, but I hope to be able to build on this superb result for the Gauloises KTM team."
http://www.jaxquickfit.com.au/other-tyre-news-dakar.htm

On the other hand the team wants to repeat their in success in 2007 by being in top 3 of the TRUNK CHALLENGE which is a TROPHY FOR THOSE RACING WITHOUT ANY ASSISTANCE.
http://buenosaires54.com/blogen/2009/12/dakar-rally-countdow...


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Note added at 54 mins (2010-02-03 11:38:56 GMT)
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Pierrick Bonnet: “The BIKE TRUNK CHALLENGE, that's the real Dakar”. Pierrick will be taking on his eighth Dakar. His huge experience that has now become ...
www.dakar.com/2009/DAK/RIDERS/us/equipage/52.html

Two prizes for Turkey in the Dakar Rally ... holders of the cups for second and third place in the MOTORCYCLE TRUNK CHALLENGE (UNASSISTED RACERS CATEGORY). ...
www.thy.com/en-INT/skylife/article.aspx?mkl=310

A.S.O. – Competitors' Service – A.S.A. du Paris Dakar. Frédéric LEQUIEN, Deputy Motorsport Director ...... MOTORCYCLE TRUNK CHALLENGE. (MALLES MOTOS): ...
www.dakar.com/2009/DAK/presentation/.../DAK09_reglement_mot...
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xxxBourth
Local time: 21:08
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dakar news
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"trunk" riders


Explanation:
Drivers/riders?

Does pilote refer here to car drivers or bike riders? In both cases I suppose the support system of the rally organizers carries their belongings, presumably in a trunk or trunks. For the cars, they'd probably refer to the co-driver/navigator too, and his trunk. And cars would probably have more spares. So I tend to think this refers to bike riders, many of whom will be minimalist, with what is presumably a small trunk containing changes of clothes, their toothbrush, etc. and just a couple of spare wheels.

Drivers / riders in a manufacturer's team undoubtedly have all mod-cons transported for them in vast quantities by their support crew, so would not be pilotes "malles".

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Note added at 51 mins (2010-02-03 11:35:44 GMT)
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Avec la course à l’armement, inévitable, qui a commencé dès le début, 3-4 ans après la création, le modernisme, les assistances, le GPS, qui a totalement changé le Dakar, et la fragilité des motos, le nombre de « PILOTES MALLES » n’était que de 15 au départ cette année.
CE SONT DES PILOTES QUI PARTENT AVEC LEUR MOTO, UNE MALLE DE 200 LITRES ET UNE PAIRE DE ROUE. Il faut bien savoir que cette malle avec les roues aurait représenté un véritable luxe pour 95% des pilotes qui partaient il y a une bonne vingtaine d’années.
[ ... ]
Hors [sic!] un privé aurait besoin d’une moto dont le moteur peut faire 9000 kms sans rien toucher.
L’an prochain, ce sera des 450cc pour tout le monde et nous savons qu’il n’y a pas, malgré ce que l’on veut nous dire, un constructeur qui fabrique une 450 capable de faire le Dakar sans une énorme préparation.
Ces 15 pilotes repartiront-ils en CATÉGORIE « MALLES », SI ELLE EXISTE ENCORE ?
Cela implique une assistance, donc un coup supplémentaire, 4, 5 ou 6000 euros selon les offres, plus des pièces coûteuses, à mettre au bout de la note.
http://moto.caradisiac.com/Dakar-2010-les-pilotes-males-en-v...

C’est ce qu’on appelle un « PILOTE MALLE », JUSTE LA MALE [SIC!] DE L’ORGANISATION ET UNE PAIRE DE ROUES. Il espère cette année être dans les tous premiers du « Challenge pilote malle »
http://moto.caradisiac.com/Pierrick-Bonnet-sa-participation-...

Typical DAKAR day. 5:00 W ake-up call, STOWING TENT AND BELONGINGS INTO TRUNK. 5:20 Breakfast (ample!!) Collect rations and water for the day (possi- ...
www.dakar.com/2009/DAK/presentation/.../part_journee_type_u...

Thats what came off the spare bike and it all had to go into a secure box which needed to fit into the STANDARD ISSUE STEEL TRUNK WHICH IS CARRIED AROUND ON THE PLANE FROM BIVOUAC TO BIVOUAC. [ ... ] Maximum weight allowed for the TRUNK is 50kg and the officials do weigh it before allowing it on the plane for the first time, after that you can add to it and nobody checks the weight again.
Thats a good thing as my TRUNK weighs in at 49.8 kg without anything other than the spares in it.
This means that anything else i need in the PLANE TRUNK such as a sleeping bag, extra clothing, towel, wash bag, energy rations will have to be sneaked in later and be carried on one of the assistance vehicles for the first couple of days until we head into Morocco.
http://duncansdakar.blogspot.com/

For Pierre the Dakar is a story about men setting off on adventure with a SINGLE TRUNK AS BAGGAGE
http://www.dakar.com/2009/DAK/RIDERS/us/equipage/99.html

"Not too long ago I was riding on the DAKAR as an AMATEUR with A TRUNK OF SPARE PARTS AND A HANDFUL OF TIRES," said Casteu. "Now to finish second overall and cross the beach at Lac Rose in a podium position is a dream for me. It was a tough race, but I hope to be able to build on this superb result for the Gauloises KTM team."
http://www.jaxquickfit.com.au/other-tyre-news-dakar.htm

On the other hand the team wants to repeat their in success in 2007 by being in top 3 of the TRUNK CHALLENGE which is a TROPHY FOR THOSE RACING WITHOUT ANY ASSISTANCE.
http://buenosaires54.com/blogen/2009/12/dakar-rally-countdow...


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Note added at 54 mins (2010-02-03 11:38:56 GMT)
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Pierrick Bonnet: “The BIKE TRUNK CHALLENGE, that's the real Dakar”. Pierrick will be taking on his eighth Dakar. His huge experience that has now become ...
www.dakar.com/2009/DAK/RIDERS/us/equipage/52.html

Two prizes for Turkey in the Dakar Rally ... holders of the cups for second and third place in the MOTORCYCLE TRUNK CHALLENGE (UNASSISTED RACERS CATEGORY). ...
www.thy.com/en-INT/skylife/article.aspx?mkl=310

A.S.O. – Competitors' Service – A.S.A. du Paris Dakar. Frédéric LEQUIEN, Deputy Motorsport Director ...... MOTORCYCLE TRUNK CHALLENGE. (MALLES MOTOS): ...
www.dakar.com/2009/DAK/presentation/.../DAK09_reglement_mot...


xxxBourth
Local time: 21:08
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 114
Grading comment
Thank you very much A
Notes to answerer
Asker: Yes "motos" and "quads"


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agree  Tony M: 'trunk' is the term I have commonly seen used in connection with the Dakar rally (though it seems like a bit of a misnomer, really!)
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Reference: dakar news

Reference information:
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DAKAR NEWS
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s Au pied de l'avion « malles moto », où se retrouvent tous les pilotes qui ont .... le plus jeune pilote à finir le Dakar, dans la catégorie la plus dif- ficile ». ... définition de la collaboration familiale obéit donc à de nou- ...
www.dakar.com/2006/DAK/LIVE/.../dakar_news_2006_04_fr.pdf - Similar

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Note added at 44 mins (2010-02-03 11:28:32 GMT)
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If you google dakar news you will find the site. Good luck!

Ségolène Neilson
United Kingdom
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Note to reference poster
Asker: I don't seem to be able to open that, S.

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