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Cols semi italien

English translation: half-spread collar

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French term or phrase:Cols semi italien
English translation:half-spread collar
Entered by: Rob Grayson

13:04 Aug 15, 2006
French to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
French term or phrase: Cols semi italien
From a description of the outfit worn by a celebrity:

"...du costume 100% coton.....aux chemises, cols semi italien en coton et coton mako double retors..."

I think I've heard of a "half collar", but "Italian half collar" gets zero hits on Google.
Rob Grayson
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:59
semi-Italian collar
Explanation:
Looks as if an Italian collar is one without the downward pointing points (remember the 1970s ;-) ? ), where the two ends for a horizontal line between the collarbones.

I guess "semi" means it is not quite as straight or flat, but not as pointed as conventional collars (whatever the fashion is these days).

If you look closely at American and Italian button down collars you'll see that they're cut differently. Unbutton both American and Italian collars and lay them flat to compare. You'll see that the front edge of the America collar has a pronounced curve whereas the Italian collar is more straight (This applies only to the quality American shirts.) The curve on the American collar produces a nice "roll" in the collar when it's buttoned down - especially noticeable when not wearing a tie and with the top front button undone. The Italian button down collar has a straight front edge and the collar lies flatter.
http://thesartorialist.blogspot.com/2006/05/style-cue-part-2...

An exclusive cut , this shirt comes along with an Italian collar that sits slightly higher on the neck , makes for an altogether more relaxed look that's ...
www.prowseandhargood.com/categories.php?catID=1&PHPSESSID=b...

A flat-lying Italian collar finishes the look. This was a popular collar style in the 1950s
http://www.asyoulikeitkc.com/1950smuseum.htm

Picture at altura.speedera.net/.../products/lg_8429061.jpg
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Armed with this answer, I did some more searching and looking at photos, and settled on "half-spread collar" as the most widely used description.
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semi-Italian collar


Explanation:
Looks as if an Italian collar is one without the downward pointing points (remember the 1970s ;-) ? ), where the two ends for a horizontal line between the collarbones.

I guess "semi" means it is not quite as straight or flat, but not as pointed as conventional collars (whatever the fashion is these days).

If you look closely at American and Italian button down collars you'll see that they're cut differently. Unbutton both American and Italian collars and lay them flat to compare. You'll see that the front edge of the America collar has a pronounced curve whereas the Italian collar is more straight (This applies only to the quality American shirts.) The curve on the American collar produces a nice "roll" in the collar when it's buttoned down - especially noticeable when not wearing a tie and with the top front button undone. The Italian button down collar has a straight front edge and the collar lies flatter.
http://thesartorialist.blogspot.com/2006/05/style-cue-part-2...

An exclusive cut , this shirt comes along with an Italian collar that sits slightly higher on the neck , makes for an altogether more relaxed look that's ...
www.prowseandhargood.com/categories.php?catID=1&PHPSESSID=b...

A flat-lying Italian collar finishes the look. This was a popular collar style in the 1950s
http://www.asyoulikeitkc.com/1950smuseum.htm

Picture at altura.speedera.net/.../products/lg_8429061.jpg


Bourth (X)
Local time: 14:59
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Grading comment
Armed with this answer, I did some more searching and looking at photos, and settled on "half-spread collar" as the most widely used description.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Enza Longo: I've also seen references for semi-spread collar but I'm not really sure if it's referring to the Italian collar or not
25 mins

agree  celinemollet
5 hrs

agree  EJP
18 hrs
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