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English translation: wholesaler/group operator

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07:54 Jul 18, 2011

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Marketing - Tourism & Travel / Tourism questionnaire

French term or phrase: grossiste/groupiste

In a questionnaire for tourism professionals, in a list of different types of organisation involved in tourism. Context: "Type d'organisme ? Tour opérateur ; Agence de Voyage ; Autocariste ; **Grossiste/groupiste** ; Autre ;". How would you express this in English, please? Thanks in advance for any help.

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English translation:wholesaler/group operator

Explanation:
Wholesaler or wholesale operator/ group operator.
The wholesaler sells packages to travel agencies. Group operator is self-explanatory
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wholesaler/group operator

Sangro

tour operator

pooja_chic

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wholesaler/group operator

Explanation:
Wholesaler or wholesale operator/ group operator.
The wholesaler sells packages to travel agencies. Group operator is self-explanatory
Dicotour here:
http://is.gd/W01dsu

Sangro
Local time: 03:43
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Native speaker of:

English,

Romanian
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Thanks very much for your help.

8 mins confidence:

tour operator

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I must add wholesale to my answer.
Wholesale tour operator, then it can distinguish between what is being asked by asker..
A Wholesale Tour Operator provides travel programmes , tours and associated travel services to Retail Travel Agents or Tour operators selling directly to the public .These travel itineraries are usually sold under the agent or retail operator's brand and as such are sold under their terms and conditions .

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A wholesaler generally has a contract with a hotel group/s with discounted rates which would then be sold only to tour operators (international / local)
A tour operator has a contract with hotel group/s with nett rates that they pay to the hotel. The difference between the nett rate and the public advertised rate direct from the hotel is usually used to add extra services and make a package, this package is then sold by a travel agent or to the public direct by the tour operator. if a travel agent sells the package (with or without extras) they usually receive a commission that comes from the difference between the nett rate and the publicly advertised (rack) rate.

a local tour operator can be defined as a ground handler, where they hold the contracts with the accommodation establishments, and have their own vehicles (or subcontract vehicles) in order to look after the traveler while in the local country, the local operator would usually have a contract with the hotels group/s locally, would make a package / sell the accommodation outright at a discount to an overseas tour operator / travel agent. if to an overseas tour operator this operator can sell via agents or direct to public, knowing that a local tour operator is there to look after the clients "on the ground"

nett rate: rate for tour operators | rack rate: publicly advertised rate from hotel - this rate is also commissionable by travel agents, usually at industry standard 10%

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Asker: Thanks, but what is the difference between a "Grossiste/groupiste" and a "Tour opérateur" then?

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