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English translation: secondary jetty


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French term or phrase:contre-jetée
English translation:secondary jetty
Entered by: Robin Salmon
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01:40 Jan 19, 2007
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Tech/Engineering - Transport / Transportation / Shipping / port
French term or phrase: contre-jetée
Mentioned as distinct from "jetée principale":
"étude des travaux de confortement de la contre-jetée".

I'm thinking it could be a pier adjacent to the main one.
Robin Salmon
Australia
Local time: 10:45
secondary pier or jetty or breakwater or N/E/S/W pier
Explanation:
pier, jetty, breakwater, mole all serve the same purpose...

GENERALLY (and according to the OED):
- piers are big, protect a water from waves, can be tied up to and landed on.
- jetties are small piers.
- breakwaters protect a water from waves only.
- moles are piers made of stone.

THEREFORE:
- If the structure cannot be landed on it is a breakwater.
- If it can and is small it is a jetty, if it is big it is a pier.
- If the contre-jetée is smaller than the main one you could call the big one the pier and the smaller one the jetty.

UK REF FOR SECONDARY PIER
20 White daymark on. framework tower, white. dwelling. TE 2003. Racon. TR 2003. *. 6593·7. - Harbour Entrance. Secondary Pier. 36 48·3 ...
nms.ukho.gov.uk/amd/wnm%5C2004%5Cweek03_242-339%5C03wknm04.pdf

HOWEVER, we generally talk about the geographic position of piers in order to differentiate between them (for me this the best solution, but perhaps the required information is not available to you):

The first, the cast iron North Pier, was designed by Eugenius Birch and opened in 1863. Five years later the South Jetty opened, but only became popular ...
www2.hilton.co.uk/sisp/index.htm?fx=destination&loc_id=131722&sub_section=Get+your+Bearings
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Graham macLachlan
Local time: 02:45
Grading comment
Thanks - I put "secondary jetty" (actually my own first instinct). I felt there was a distinction being made.
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Summary of answers provided
4counter jetty
David Hollywood
4secondary pier or jetty or breakwater or N/E/S/W pier
Graham macLachlan
3lee breakwaterxxxBourth


  

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counter jetty


Explanation:
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construction de la contre-jetée installée à Monaco en 2002. A partir du dépouillement des essais ... the counter jetty (installed in Monaco in 2002). ...
www.cetmef.equipement.gouv.fr/colloques/geniecotier/fichier... - Similar pages


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The counter-jetty serves three purposes: – to protect Condamine harbour and to calm the outer harbour waters (swell-breaking function), ...
www.setec.fr/FO/EN/030-projets/pop_Detail_reference.php?IdR... - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

Hydro International - Archive - July/August 2003, Volume 7, Number ...The main part of the project (putting in place the counter jetty and the floating ... The Counter Jetty. This is made of concrete; length 145m, width 30m, ...
www.hydro-international.com/issues/articles/id19-The_Extens... - 62k - Cached - Similar pages


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At that time the water was too deep to allow, using building techniques of the day, construction of a jetty and counter jetty to provide adequate protection ...
www.hydro-international.com/issues/articles/id18-High_Preci... - 59k - Cached - Similar pages

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Note added at 6 mins (2007-01-19 01:46:49 GMT)
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The first involving the reclaimed area and the counter jetty. ... With the addition of the counter jetty, Monaco will become one of the biggest yachting ...
www.gouv.mc/Dataweb/actus.nsf/(ListCh)/0ce7db9f40de19158825... - 11k - Cached - Similar pages
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David Hollywood
Local time: 21:45
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  blavatsky: looks spot-on
5 hrs

neutral  Tony M: I have some reservations! 1) The first 2 refs. are translated from FR original texts 2) ALL of these refs. refer to the same dock project, suggesting a common source text and (possibly wrong?) translation 3) Zero relevant Ghits if you exclude Monaco
6 hrs

disagree  Graham macLachlan: Unfortunately no UK ghits...
9 hrs
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secondary pier or jetty or breakwater or N/E/S/W pier


Explanation:
pier, jetty, breakwater, mole all serve the same purpose...

GENERALLY (and according to the OED):
- piers are big, protect a water from waves, can be tied up to and landed on.
- jetties are small piers.
- breakwaters protect a water from waves only.
- moles are piers made of stone.

THEREFORE:
- If the structure cannot be landed on it is a breakwater.
- If it can and is small it is a jetty, if it is big it is a pier.
- If the contre-jetée is smaller than the main one you could call the big one the pier and the smaller one the jetty.

UK REF FOR SECONDARY PIER
20 White daymark on. framework tower, white. dwelling. TE 2003. Racon. TR 2003. *. 6593·7. - Harbour Entrance. Secondary Pier. 36 48·3 ...
nms.ukho.gov.uk/amd/wnm%5C2004%5Cweek03_242-339%5C03wknm04.pdf

HOWEVER, we generally talk about the geographic position of piers in order to differentiate between them (for me this the best solution, but perhaps the required information is not available to you):

The first, the cast iron North Pier, was designed by Eugenius Birch and opened in 1863. Five years later the South Jetty opened, but only became popular ...
www2.hilton.co.uk/sisp/index.htm?fx=destination&loc_id=131722&sub_section=Get+your+Bearings


Graham macLachlan
Local time: 02:45
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Thanks - I put "secondary jetty" (actually my own first instinct). I felt there was a distinction being made.
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
lee breakwater


Explanation:
May be applicable only in specific cases, but this is the term used for the "contre-jetée" at La Condamine Harbour in Monaco (where I sail every weekend, don't you know ;-) ).

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Monaco – For the Condamine harbor. improvement project, Bouygues designed and ... The lee breakwater uses Bouygues. Breakwater Optimized Profile. ...
virginiadot.org/projects/resources/ppta-Third%20Hampton%20Roads%20Crossing.pdf

Contre-jetée du Port de la Condamine: fiche de données sur l'ouvrage avec des photos, données techniques, chronologie, liste des concepteurs et entreprises ...
fr.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=s0004927
[picture at http://fr.structurae.de/structures/data/photos.cfm?ID=s00049...]

La contre-jetée a une triple fonction :
– protéger le Port de la Condamine et tranquilliser l’avant-port (fonction brise houle),
– assurer l’accostage des navires de croisière (fonction quai),
– intégrer des services de restauration et de commerce (magasins) sur sa plate-forme supérieure.
http://www.setec.fr/FO/FR/030-projets/pop_Detail_reference.p...


xxxBourth
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Graham macLachlan: you can be in the lee of a breakwater, what is the breakwater in the lee of?//If so, it would be superfluous ie the job would have been done by the windward breakwater...
1 hr
  -> In the lee of the first breakwater.
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