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trunfle n... Obsolete a small cart or truck with low wheels ... www.yourdictionary.com › Dictionary Definitions - Cached - Similar
trundle n. A small wheel or roller. The motion or noise of rolling. A trundle bed. A low-wheeled cart; a dolly. www.answers.com › ... › Literature & Language › Dictionary - Cached - Similar
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or spelled TRUNDEL here
The trees might be planted against a brick wall and enclosed in winter with a plank shed covered with "cerecloth", a waxed precursor of tarpaulin.[7] "For that purpose, some keepe them in great square boxes, and lift them to and fro by iron hooks on the sides, or cause them to be rowled by trundels, or small wheeles under them, to place them in a house or close gallery" — which must have been thought handsomer than the alternative.
An orangery was a building frequently found in the grounds of fashionable residences from the .... Versailles Orangerie · Strasbourg, park of the Orangerie ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangery - Cached - Similar
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Trundle as a verb:
and trundle in tubs of orange trees; ... around a pond, of a handsome orangery, .... on Versailles are a precious record of the state of the French gardens, seen by a master architect ... www.jstor.org/stable/1586410
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note that these crates (the trees were in) had hooks on the side; these may well be what was used rather than "boom" to lift on and off and then trundle them in and out of orangery winter and spring
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yes maybe "trundel" spelling would distinguish it from modern shopping trolleys "trundlers" in NZ (really a typical case of verb-noun formation in English; if it trundles then it must be a trundler!). I came across this word doing a crossword puzzle last year, I think the clue was a "dolly" ++ cryptic and it took me a while! I was also thinking of "tumbril" but they were carts used to bring victims to the guillotine not to move orange trees!
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BYW the trundle bed actually slots in under another bed so it has that UNDER action
In the end, I kept the French and explained it, but I think your answer and references were the most helpful - thank you! 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer
Berlingue is of course slang for "engine", but I doubt it was used in the 19th century. Berlinguette comes up so often as a family name, I can't help wondering if a manufacturer by that name made the contraptions and they acquired his name. Ring Versailles is the best bet. Probably something like the mobile chain hoists (three-wheeled trolley with a boom and block and chain tackle) used for taking engines out of cars.
Yes, Lisa, I think it's very much like a forklift-trolley combo, if you will, but am not sure I can use the actual word 'forklift' in my translation since I think it would sound anachronistic, given the period. Still a bit stuck on the right term, but at least we all seem to be visualizing the darn contraption the same way! Thanks for your input!
Thank you, Wordeffect! I searched for hours for an illustration on the Internet, but was greatly hampered by the fact that a berlinguette is also something you can eat...!! Your description really helped, and thanks for the contact tip!!
I can't find an illustration of this, but it must be some sort of trolley, like a hefty sack truck perhaps (I could do with one for my own lemon trees), with a pointy bit on the front. The only photo I've found is of the modern tractor replacement. You could always try asking Alain Baraton (head gardener) at Versailles. He'll at least be able to describe it to you.
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waggonnette
Explanation: I picture it as a small four-wheeled vehicle, probably horse-drawn, designed for lightweight transport duty, small enough to pass between and under the trees of the orangerie.
I don't see the need for it to resemble a fork-lift truck in any way, since you have the flèche to lift boxes on and off the waggonnette.
xxxmediamatrix Local time: 15:10 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 45
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Asker: Thank you for the idea! But for me, a waggonette sounds more like a horse-drawn carriage for carrying people. I liked the idea of the fork-lift truck because the 'berlinguette' lifts things from underneath the same way a fork-lift does. Still thinking about this one, but thanks for your input!!
trunfle n... Obsolete a small cart or truck with low wheels ... www.yourdictionary.com › Dictionary Definitions - Cached - Similar
trundle n. A small wheel or roller. The motion or noise of rolling. A trundle bed. A low-wheeled cart; a dolly. www.answers.com › ... › Literature & Language › Dictionary - Cached - Similar
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 3 hrs (2011-01-09 22:43:37 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
or spelled TRUNDEL here
The trees might be planted against a brick wall and enclosed in winter with a plank shed covered with "cerecloth", a waxed precursor of tarpaulin.[7] "For that purpose, some keepe them in great square boxes, and lift them to and fro by iron hooks on the sides, or cause them to be rowled by trundels, or small wheeles under them, to place them in a house or close gallery" — which must have been thought handsomer than the alternative.
An orangery was a building frequently found in the grounds of fashionable residences from the .... Versailles Orangerie · Strasbourg, park of the Orangerie ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangery - Cached - Similar
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 3 hrs (2011-01-09 22:44:11 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangery - Cached - Similar
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 3 hrs (2011-01-09 22:46:28 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
Trundle as a verb:
and trundle in tubs of orange trees; ... around a pond, of a handsome orangery, .... on Versailles are a precious record of the state of the French gardens, seen by a master architect ... www.jstor.org/stable/1586410
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 4 hrs (2011-01-09 23:09:45 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
note that these crates (the trees were in) had hooks on the side; these may well be what was used rather than "boom" to lift on and off and then trundle them in and out of orangery winter and spring
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 20 hrs (2011-01-10 14:59:07 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
yes maybe "trundel" spelling would distinguish it from modern shopping trolleys "trundlers" in NZ (really a typical case of verb-noun formation in English; if it trundles then it must be a trundler!). I came across this word doing a crossword puzzle last year, I think the clue was a "dolly" ++ cryptic and it took me a while! I was also thinking of "tumbril" but they were carts used to bring victims to the guillotine not to move orange trees!
-------------------------------------------------- Note added at 20 hrs (2011-01-10 15:00:50 GMT) --------------------------------------------------
BYW the trundle bed actually slots in under another bed so it has that UNDER action
thanks, glad I could be of some help. Think you did the right thing explaining the French:-)
gallagy2 Ireland Works in field Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 13
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In the end, I kept the French and explained it, but I think your answer and references were the most helpful - thank you!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you; I found this both interesting and helpful! I'm not sure these particular crates have hooks on since the 'berlinguette' is described as lifting them from underneath - the latter does have wheels, though, so I like your 'trundle' suggestion...