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English translation: See explanation below...

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07:11 Aug 4, 2004
French to English translations [PRO]
Transport / Transportation / Shipping
French term or phrase: Boîte imprimée X (Caisse Offset, Flexo) pour retour montée+caisse de calage
Background: Packing list for of nitrous oxide cylinder packaging. "Carton à plat, caisse de calage, boîte carton imprimée XYZ (Caisse Offset) montée + caisse de calage, Boîte carton blanc (Caisse Flexo) pour retour montée + caisse de calage."
Rob Albon
United States
Local time: 05:32
English translation:See explanation below...
Explanation:
Well, I reckon the 'boîte imprimée... pour retour montée' must be a XYZ printed return box/carton (supplied ready built) --- in other words, not packed flat for the customer to unfold and 'build'.
Presumably these cylinders, even if small, must be pretty heavy, so I reckon the 'caisse de calage' is going to be one of those wood+cardboard or polystyrene etc. specially-shaped blocks that are used to protect and stop odd-shaped items from rattling around inside rectangular cartons

As for 'offset' and 'flexo', I can only imagine these refer to the different printing processes used for the various types of carton; 'offset' is obvious, and I have a vague inkling that 'flexography' is a printing process something like silk-screen printing or serigraphy that allows printing at fairly low quality, but on uneven/rounded surfaces. But these latter comments really are without any specialist knowledge!

HTH!

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Note added at 22 mins (2004-08-04 07:34:43 GMT)
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In view of the punctuation, maybe (Caisse Offset) and (Caisse Flexo) are the in-house jargon names for these particular boxes, used to differentiate between them...?

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Note added at 4 hrs 52 mins (2004-08-04 12:04:36 GMT)
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Regarding keeping the difference between \'caisse\' and \'boîte\', I\'m not sure you can! It seems to me they themselves are referring to these different types of \'boîte\' as \'caisses\', implying that they too may be slightly hazy about the distinction! You might be able to use \'case\' to translate \'caisse\' where it refers to a heavier-duty type of carboard box --- not just your regular, thin corrugated cardboard, like grocery items etc. are often packed in, but the heavier, sturdier type as used for items like TVs.

As regards the \'calage\'/\'inserts\', I think you\'ll find that\'s exactly what they are called; unless you know their material, you may not be able to take it much further.


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Note added at 5 hrs 1 min (2004-08-04 12:13:47 GMT)
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Here are just 2 refs. thrown up by a quick Google that mention carton + case:

ABC Packaging Ltd - Stone, Staffordshire - UK
... Blister Packaging Cards, to Specification, Box, Case and Carton Board, ... Carton Printing
Services, Carton Printing, Web Offset, Cartons,
www.kellysearch.com/gb-company-4524447.html

Pearson Packaging Systems - Case Tray Erecting Machines, Case Tray ...
... operation that requires corrugated cases (cardboard boxes), carton erector, case taper, taper. ...
www.packexpo.com/ve/36166/main.html

Other sites I visited do indeed suggest \'assemble\' for themaking up of flat-pack cartons, though the second reference above seems to be referring to \'erecting\', and the reference below (with very helpful glossary) mentions a \'set-up\' box: \"set-up box: A paper box of rigid construction that is \"set-up\" and ready to use. It is not folded. Will take up more storage space.

http://riversidepaperco.com/main_files/BoxCor/Box_ReverseTuc...




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Note added at 5 hrs 2 mins (2004-08-04 12:14:52 GMT)
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The same Google did not throw up any confirmation of \'insert\', so you may have to look a bit harder for that one...
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Tony M
France
Local time: 11:32
Grading comment
Thanks Dusty!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

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Boîte imprimée X (Caisse Offset, Flexo) pour retour montée+caisse de calage
See explanation below...


Explanation:
Well, I reckon the 'boîte imprimée... pour retour montée' must be a XYZ printed return box/carton (supplied ready built) --- in other words, not packed flat for the customer to unfold and 'build'.
Presumably these cylinders, even if small, must be pretty heavy, so I reckon the 'caisse de calage' is going to be one of those wood+cardboard or polystyrene etc. specially-shaped blocks that are used to protect and stop odd-shaped items from rattling around inside rectangular cartons

As for 'offset' and 'flexo', I can only imagine these refer to the different printing processes used for the various types of carton; 'offset' is obvious, and I have a vague inkling that 'flexography' is a printing process something like silk-screen printing or serigraphy that allows printing at fairly low quality, but on uneven/rounded surfaces. But these latter comments really are without any specialist knowledge!

HTH!

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Note added at 22 mins (2004-08-04 07:34:43 GMT)
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In view of the punctuation, maybe (Caisse Offset) and (Caisse Flexo) are the in-house jargon names for these particular boxes, used to differentiate between them...?

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Note added at 4 hrs 52 mins (2004-08-04 12:04:36 GMT)
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Regarding keeping the difference between \'caisse\' and \'boîte\', I\'m not sure you can! It seems to me they themselves are referring to these different types of \'boîte\' as \'caisses\', implying that they too may be slightly hazy about the distinction! You might be able to use \'case\' to translate \'caisse\' where it refers to a heavier-duty type of carboard box --- not just your regular, thin corrugated cardboard, like grocery items etc. are often packed in, but the heavier, sturdier type as used for items like TVs.

As regards the \'calage\'/\'inserts\', I think you\'ll find that\'s exactly what they are called; unless you know their material, you may not be able to take it much further.


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Note added at 5 hrs 1 min (2004-08-04 12:13:47 GMT)
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Here are just 2 refs. thrown up by a quick Google that mention carton + case:

ABC Packaging Ltd - Stone, Staffordshire - UK
... Blister Packaging Cards, to Specification, Box, Case and Carton Board, ... Carton Printing
Services, Carton Printing, Web Offset, Cartons,
www.kellysearch.com/gb-company-4524447.html

Pearson Packaging Systems - Case Tray Erecting Machines, Case Tray ...
... operation that requires corrugated cases (cardboard boxes), carton erector, case taper, taper. ...
www.packexpo.com/ve/36166/main.html

Other sites I visited do indeed suggest \'assemble\' for themaking up of flat-pack cartons, though the second reference above seems to be referring to \'erecting\', and the reference below (with very helpful glossary) mentions a \'set-up\' box: \"set-up box: A paper box of rigid construction that is \"set-up\" and ready to use. It is not folded. Will take up more storage space.

http://riversidepaperco.com/main_files/BoxCor/Box_ReverseTuc...




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Note added at 5 hrs 2 mins (2004-08-04 12:14:52 GMT)
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The same Google did not throw up any confirmation of \'insert\', so you may have to look a bit harder for that one...

Tony M
France
Local time: 11:32
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 202
Grading comment
Thanks Dusty!

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