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chapeau de cocotte

Italian translation: cappello eccentrico di 'cocotte'

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French term or phrase:	chapeau de cocotte
Italian translation:	cappello eccentrico di 'cocotte'
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13:23 Sep 5, 2011

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French term or phrase: chapeau de cocotte

Nelle descrizione di un quadro, la modella indossa un chapeau de cocotte.
non ho capito bene di quale cappello si tratti.
Grazie mille per ogni suggerimento,
Cristina

Maria Cristina Chiarini KudoZ activity Questions: 562 (2 open) (3 closed without grading) Answers: 286 Italy
Local time: 03:00

cappello eccentrico di 'cocotte'

Explanation:
le cocotte, le bellezze eccentriche

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mamamia
Local time: 03:00

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grazie a tutti
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Summary of answers provided

3 +4

cappello eccentrico di 'cocotte'

mamamia

3 +2

cappello chic e glamour

Carole Poirey

copricapo elaborato/appariscente

Barbara Carrara

Summary of reference entries provided
immagine	Giuseppina Manfredi

Discussion entries: 3

Answers

8 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

cappello chic e glamour

Explanation:
il cappello da cocotte ( da donna leggera ) è un cappello molto femminile un pò all'antica pieno di fantasia

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non è un cappello specifico, è uno stile quello delle cocotte " donne leggere " di un secolo fa

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è ovvio che in italiano non possiamo parlare di " donne leggere" o " cortigiane " ma trovare uno o due adjettivi che possano descrivere con garbo questo stile .....

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visto che si tratta di un quadro ( pensavo fosse un sito commerciale ) lascerei "cocotte " che secondo me descrive perfettamente une personnaggio femminile francese fine 800 ....

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voir cet article italien :
http://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/...

Carole Poirey
Italy
Local time: 03:00
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 151

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Giuseppina Manfredi: lascerei il termine francese aggiungendo magari "alla moda": pare che cocotte si riferisse infatti, in particolare, a prostitute di alto bordo

46 mins

-> Merci

agree

Ivana Giuliani: Ciao Carole, sì anch'io lascerei il termine cocotte.

2 hrs

-> grazie di aver capito che ho cambiato la mia proposta .....

neutral

Elisabetta M.: le cocotte non erano prostituto di alto bordo anzi. vedete questo link. cmq lascerai anch'io cocotte in francesehttp://www.sexologie-magazine.com/dossierDuMois/demiMondaine...

2 hrs

-> non ho parlato di alto borgo e avevo frainteso .... cercavo un termine adatto a un prodotto in vendita ....

neutral

Silvana Pagani: chic e glamour è proprio il contratio

3 hrs

-> infatti, ho cambiato la mia proposta e suggerisco di lasciare il termine in francese

neutral

Cathie Nazé: Je ne comprends pas non plus le lien entre les cocottes et le glamour, ce sont deux termes antinomiques.

3 hrs

-> même chose que pour Silvana

1 hr confidence:

copricapo elaborato/appariscente

Explanation:
Elaborato fa più "fine"; appariscente più "cattiva signorina".
Non so se adatto al tuo contesto, però...

Guarda un dipinto qua
http://www.maglm.fr/post/2008/02/24/Vlaminck-Un-instinct-fau...

Barbara Carrara
Italy
Local time: 03:00
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Italian
PRO pts in category: 4

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

cappello eccentrico di 'cocotte'

Explanation:
le cocotte, le bellezze eccentriche

mamamia
Local time: 03:00
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

grazie a tutti

Reference comments

56 mins

Reference: immagine

Reference information:
"(...) cette "Fille du rat mort" (1905)- que l'on voit ci-dessous: à demi-dévêtue comme une prostituée, immense chapeau de cocotte et regard noir de biais dont on ne sait trop que penser, sur un séduisant fond presque art déco..."

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"Les cocottes étaient également, surtout en France sous le Second Empire, des prostituées de luxe connues pour ruiner leurs riches amants en dépenses somptuaires (fêtes, bijoux, maisons...)"
Fonte: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocotte

Reference: http://blissinthecity.canalblog.com/archives/culture_et_depe...

Giuseppina Manfredi
Italy
Native speaker of:

Italian
PRO pts in category: 8

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