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German: "weich" werden

English translation: become soft







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German term or phrase:"weich" werden
English translation:become soft
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Tech/Engineering - Aerospace / Aviation / Space / Helicopters and rotorcraft
German term or phrase: "weich" werden
The German text reads:
"Bei XX% Torque wird der Hubschrauber „weich“ und hebt dann ... ab."
which I have provisionally translated as:
"At XX% torque the helicopter becomes “soft”/“softens” and then takes off ...."

d_williams
Germany
Clarification request(s) and response
Cilian O'Tuama: 3:10pm Jun 19, 2008: You could at least tell us what they're talking about! What's the surrounding text dealing with? Maybe the Flugeigenschaften/Handhabung...? Or do you just need guesses?
Ingeborg Gowans: 3:21pm Jun 19, 2008: with Cilian: is this meant in a positive or negative way, normally "weich werden" means to give in, but in this context??? A little more info would be greatly appreciated, so "we can take off, too" with suggestions:)
d_williams: 3:29pm Jun 19, 2008: Context - It is talking about a helicopter taking off, in this spefic paragraph from a concrete runway/landing pad to stationary hover, see also: http://dict.leo.org/forum/viewWrongentry.php?idThread=528048... and http://dict.leo.org/forum/viewWrongentry.php?idThread=528058...
d_williams: 3:30pm Jun 19, 2008: Overall context - And in general, it is about a test flight and evaluation of the helicopter.

the resulting imbalance raises the helicopter.
Explanation:
What do you think about imbalance? Sounds like it could fit. This is the link:
http://www.helischool.de/index.php?id=43&L=1

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Note added at 1 Stunde (2008-06-19 15:41:51 GMT)
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Admittedly the site sounds quite rubbish, but maybe it gives you an idea...

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Note added at 1 Stunde (2008-06-19 15:57:06 GMT)
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As I said, the site sounds quite rubbish. In the meantime I have found this (http://www.faa.gov/education_research/testing/airmen/test_st...)

Dissymmetry of lift

The torque effect (angular momentum) causes the helicopter to spin before it lifts off.
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Sonja Biermann
Germany
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Thanksm although I found out elsewhere that the correct term is actually "become soft", so only 1 point awarded this time.
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2 +1the resulting imbalance raises the helicopter.
Sonja Biermann
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Alison MacG


  

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„weich“ werden the resulting imbalance raises the helicopter.

Explanation:
What do you think about imbalance? Sounds like it could fit. This is the link:
http://www.helischool.de/index.php?id=43&L=1

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Note added at 1 Stunde (2008-06-19 15:41:51 GMT)
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Admittedly the site sounds quite rubbish, but maybe it gives you an idea...

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Note added at 1 Stunde (2008-06-19 15:57:06 GMT)
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As I said, the site sounds quite rubbish. In the meantime I have found this (http://www.faa.gov/education_research/testing/airmen/test_st...)

Dissymmetry of lift

The torque effect (angular momentum) causes the helicopter to spin before it lifts off.

Sonja Biermann
Germany
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 1
Note from asker to answerer
Thanksm although I found out elsewhere that the correct term is actually "become soft", so only 1 point awarded this time.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Isn't it "lift" that lifts the helicopter? See, for example: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=686607 for a discussion of how a helicopter flies. I've never heard of imbalance raising an aircraft off the ground.

Asker: Bear in mind that it is a .de site and presumably translated by a German model plane enthusiast. Or Babel Fish.

Asker: Help! That sounds positively dangerous! If the (low) torque is allowed to cause the helicopter to spin even before it lifts off then the tail rotor isn't doing its job and there is a serious risk of a nasty crash, I'd say!


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agree xxxeloso: Good translation!
1 hr
  -> Thank you! I am not quite convinced though. I tried to imagine what happens: First the helicopter stands firmly on the ground, then the rotor starts to rotate and the helicopter lifts slightly or partially. Sway, yaw, drift don't seem to fit.
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„weich“ werden Comment

Explanation:
I'm not sure exactly how to phrase it in your case, but I think it may have something to do with "soft-starting" or "soft-start" mode/option/feature/function, etc.

See this link about very old helicopters:

Thoughts re Soft-Start:
The function of 'soft-starting' is only used once during a flight. It is used at the beginning of the flight, when the craft is on the ground and it is used at reduced torque. Once the rotors are rotating they will never be revolving at a RPM less than that of the engine(s) / [reduction ratio].
http://www.synchrolite.com/B251.html

Hope this helps. Try googling helicopter + "soft start" - there are lots of hits and you may find something to help you.


Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: That sou´nds like it's on the right lines, but I don't see how one could arrive a the phrase "wird der Hubschrauber „weich“" .

Asker: Thanks. A “soft start” seems to be a specific kind of start (low torque) and, although the two quite possibly go hand in hand, I'm not entirely convinced a helicopter needs to be performing a "soft start" to become “soft”.

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