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English translation: iconographic (or statuary) schemes or programmes


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German term or phrase:Bildprogramm
English translation:iconographic (or statuary) schemes or programmes
Entered by: Aisha Prigann
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19:44 Nov 14, 2009
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Architecture / Baroque architecture
German term or phrase: Bildprogramm
I understand what the term means, but am having trouble finding the exact English equivalent. Does anyone know the technical term in English? The term appears in a document about a Baroque Opera House in Germany, describing the various buildings that make up the Old City centre. It is used in the following sentence:
"Vor allem der im 18. Jahrhundert entstandene Stadtkem mit dem Neuen Schloß und seiner Ausstattung, aber auch die am Rande liegende Eremitage mit ihren Gartenanlagen und Bildprogrammen sind zurecht eine Attraktion der Besucher aus aller Welt."
Aisha Prigann
Spain
Local time: 19:12
iconographic (or statuary) schemes or programmes
Explanation:
Had this problem in transl. a book on hist. of parks/gardens a couple of years ago. Since then, an ongoing gloss. entry in my e-Langenscheidt (just updated, a bow to everyone on this page) :

Bildprogramm 1) (?) Stock, set, of pics/imgs (imagery) or r décor e.g. f a park. Cf. suite.

- Check 'pictorial /picture/iconographic programme, pic. scheme, online NB not restricted to 2-d & v oft. (gardens!) **statuary.** (...)
--> (pictorial / iconographic) repertoire; iconography.

15nov09 (ProZ qy 'Bildprogramm' re. Baroque town centre, houses & grounds...)
cd read 'iconographic /statuary scheme' e.g. in (Googling >Bildprogramm+Barock<) http://www.sehepunkte.de/2004/02/3807.html -
'Ganz will sich nicht nur den mehrteiligen Bildprogrammen römischer Kirchen zwischen 1580-1700 widmen, ...(...) So ist es (..) die traditionelle Auffassung von der Vorrangstellung des autonomen Tafelbildes, der er mit seinen Überlegungen entgegentritt: Die Bildprogramme barocker römischer Kirchen lassen sich nicht unter der monofokalen Perspektive einzelbildlicher Analysen subsumieren.'
Latter sense leads to 2) -
2) (looser, as an aspect of [a group/movement's general agenda, more likely in mod./contemp. contexts] agenda, iconographic/artistic (etc.) ag.
(cf. freq. Ger. usage of 'programmatisch...')


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PS this is missing half my gloss. paste, i.e. onward from"Bildprogramm+Barock)": (from the 'Sehepunkte' URL given)
'Ganz will sich nicht nur den **mehrteiligen Bildprogrammen** römischer Kirchen zwischen 1580-1700 widmen, (...) So ist es (..) die traditionelle Auffassung von der Vorrangstellung des autonomen Tafelbildes, der er mit seinen Überlegungen entgegentritt: Die Bildprogramme barocker römischer Kirchen lassen sich nicht unter der monofokalen Perspektive einzelbildlicher Analysen subsumieren.'
Latter sense leads to 2) -
2) (looser, as an aspect of (a group/movement's general agenda, more likely in mod./contemp. contexts) agenda, iconographic/artistic (etc.) ag.
(cf. freq. Ger. usage of 'programmatisch...')


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Hitch. Half my paste from my gloss missing. Pasting here goes awry. Watch this space...

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... now the rest from my gloss (online glitch overcome?) -
... Barock<) http://www.sehepunkte.de/2004/02/3807.html -
'Ganz will sich nicht nur den mehrteiligen Bildprogrammen römischer Kirchen zwischen 1580-1700 widmen, ...(...) So ist es (..) die traditionelle Auffassung von der Vorrangstellung des autonomen Tafelbildes, der er mit seinen Überlegungen entgegentritt: Die ***Bildprogramme*** barocker römischer Kirchen lassen sich nicht unter der monofokalen Perspektive einzelbildlicher Analysen subsumieren.'
Latter sense leads to 2) -
2) (looser, as an aspect of (a group/movement's general agenda, more likely in mod./contemp. contexts) agenda, iconographic/artistic (etc.) ag.
(cf. freq. Ger. usage of 'programmatisch...')


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(Remainder of my own gloss., see at "discussion entries" above)

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Selected response from:

Stephen Reader
Local time: 19:12
Grading comment
Thank you to everyone for all the great comments. I ended up using iconographic programme, which is why I selected Stephen's answer, but everyone's input was really helpful. Thank you!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
2 +5"architectonic and iconographical elements" / "statuary"libelulariae
3iconographic (or statuary) schemes or programmesStephen Reader
3 -1engravings
makhno
Summary of reference entries provided
Explanation of "Bildprogramme"Teresa Reinhardt

Discussion entries: 7





  

Answers


14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
engravings


Explanation:
I'd say

makhno
Local time: 20:12
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, but "engravings" doesn't match what I'm looking for. Bildprogramm, as far as I understand the term, refers to staged elements within a garden landscape. For example, a baroque garden with pergolas, a Roman ruin, a lake...staged scenes.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Kim Metzger: Doesn't look like you've done your homework.
28 mins
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56 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +5
"architectonic and iconographical elements" / "statuary"


Explanation:
If it is spoken solely of fountains and statues, for instance, or even pergolas, "statuary" would be tempting to use. And if it refers to more, why not go for the explanatory terms you yourself use? However, a lake (as you mentioned) as a design element would not fit into either of these two (architectonic and iconographical). I cannot remember reading a more precise term for Bildprogramm, but I am only an art historian and no landscape expert. Just a suggestion.

libelulariae
United States
Local time: 13:12
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Teresa Reinhardt: "iconographic programs" app.cul.columbia.edu:8080/ac/handle/10022/AC:P:1520
5 hrs
  -> Thank You, Teresa!

agree  Annett Kottek: With 'statuary', cf. http://www.kloster-projekte-osek.info/english/garden.htm
13 hrs
  -> Thanks!

agree  Tom Feise: perhaps: staged landscape elements, garden and park features? cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_design
18 hrs
  -> Yes, as she herself pointed out.

agree  Stephen Reader: With Teresa + Annett, hzl. an alle/S
20 hrs
  -> Danke!

agree  Goldcoaster
20 hrs
  -> Thank you!
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22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Bildprogramme
iconographic (or statuary) schemes or programmes


Explanation:
Had this problem in transl. a book on hist. of parks/gardens a couple of years ago. Since then, an ongoing gloss. entry in my e-Langenscheidt (just updated, a bow to everyone on this page) :

Bildprogramm 1) (?) Stock, set, of pics/imgs (imagery) or r décor e.g. f a park. Cf. suite.

- Check 'pictorial /picture/iconographic programme, pic. scheme, online NB not restricted to 2-d & v oft. (gardens!) **statuary.** (...)
--> (pictorial / iconographic) repertoire; iconography.

15nov09 (ProZ qy 'Bildprogramm' re. Baroque town centre, houses & grounds...)
cd read 'iconographic /statuary scheme' e.g. in (Googling >Bildprogramm+Barock<) http://www.sehepunkte.de/2004/02/3807.html -
'Ganz will sich nicht nur den mehrteiligen Bildprogrammen römischer Kirchen zwischen 1580-1700 widmen, ...(...) So ist es (..) die traditionelle Auffassung von der Vorrangstellung des autonomen Tafelbildes, der er mit seinen Überlegungen entgegentritt: Die Bildprogramme barocker römischer Kirchen lassen sich nicht unter der monofokalen Perspektive einzelbildlicher Analysen subsumieren.'
Latter sense leads to 2) -
2) (looser, as an aspect of [a group/movement's general agenda, more likely in mod./contemp. contexts] agenda, iconographic/artistic (etc.) ag.
(cf. freq. Ger. usage of 'programmatisch...')


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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-11-15 18:13:44 GMT)
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PS this is missing half my gloss. paste, i.e. onward from"Bildprogramm+Barock)": (from the 'Sehepunkte' URL given)
'Ganz will sich nicht nur den **mehrteiligen Bildprogrammen** römischer Kirchen zwischen 1580-1700 widmen, (...) So ist es (..) die traditionelle Auffassung von der Vorrangstellung des autonomen Tafelbildes, der er mit seinen Überlegungen entgegentritt: Die Bildprogramme barocker römischer Kirchen lassen sich nicht unter der monofokalen Perspektive einzelbildlicher Analysen subsumieren.'
Latter sense leads to 2) -
2) (looser, as an aspect of (a group/movement's general agenda, more likely in mod./contemp. contexts) agenda, iconographic/artistic (etc.) ag.
(cf. freq. Ger. usage of 'programmatisch...')


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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-11-15 18:29:58 GMT)
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Hitch. Half my paste from my gloss missing. Pasting here goes awry. Watch this space...

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Note added at 23 hrs (2009-11-15 18:46:15 GMT)
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... now the rest from my gloss (online glitch overcome?) -
... Barock<) http://www.sehepunkte.de/2004/02/3807.html -
'Ganz will sich nicht nur den mehrteiligen Bildprogrammen römischer Kirchen zwischen 1580-1700 widmen, ...(...) So ist es (..) die traditionelle Auffassung von der Vorrangstellung des autonomen Tafelbildes, der er mit seinen Überlegungen entgegentritt: Die ***Bildprogramme*** barocker römischer Kirchen lassen sich nicht unter der monofokalen Perspektive einzelbildlicher Analysen subsumieren.'
Latter sense leads to 2) -
2) (looser, as an aspect of (a group/movement's general agenda, more likely in mod./contemp. contexts) agenda, iconographic/artistic (etc.) ag.
(cf. freq. Ger. usage of 'programmatisch...')


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Note added at 23 hrs (2009-11-15 19:01:57 GMT)
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(Remainder of my own gloss., see at "discussion entries" above)

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Note added at 23 hrs (2009-11-15 19:05:07 GMT)
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Entry continued in "discussion entries"

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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2009-11-15 22:44:50 GMT)
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continued in "Discussion entries"

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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2009-11-15 22:48:51 GMT)
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Gloss continued in "Discussion entries#" above.


    Reference: http://www.sehepunkte.de/2004/02/3807.html
Stephen Reader
Local time: 19:12
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 34
Grading comment
Thank you to everyone for all the great comments. I ended up using iconographic programme, which is why I selected Stephen's answer, but everyone's input was really helpful. Thank you!
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Reference comments


6 hrs
Reference: Explanation of "Bildprogramme"

Reference information:
According to the sporuce below (and others), Bildprogramme seem to be a term that describes 'programmatic art' (art with a message; at that time, primarily moral)
I do not read the quoted sentence as meaning that the Bildprogramme are in the garden; they refer to the Eremitage.
So, "iconographic", as suggested, is just fine

Sorry about the clumsy URL

p. 254 Koenigsberger, Mueller-Luckner: Republiken und Republikanismus im Europa der fruehen Neuzeit
http://books.google.com/books?id=wYNDGZGpz4EC&pg=PA254&lpg=P...

Example sentence(s):
  • ..In diesen Raeumen wurden nun die ikonographischen Programme und Konzepte mit ihren religioesen, politischen oder historischen Allegorien und Sinnbezuegen in Form von Gemaelden, Fresken oder Skulpturen angebracht...
Teresa Reinhardt
United States
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 54

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  Stephen Reader: Yes, with 'iconographic', but whether only in the bldg. or including grounds is probably conjecture pending more orig. text/facts. My reading 'd be 'in house and grounds'.
15 hrs
  -> I think it's (simply grammatically quite clear that the Eremitage has 1. Gartenanlagen and 2. Bildprogramme. No need to assume that there are Bildprogramme in the gardens; quite to the contrary
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