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Sandknochen

English translation: knuckle bone


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German term or phrase:Sandknochen
English translation:knuckle bone
Entered by: Cetacea
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15:52 May 21, 2010
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Science - Biology (-tech,-chem,micro-) / Anatomy (of cows)
German term or phrase: Sandknochen
Kugelgelenk des Rinderbeines: Zersägt man die Kugelgelenke des Rinderbeines in mehrere Teile, erhält man Sandknochen.

This is a text on feeding raw bones to dogs. I can't find anything! (Only explanations, not the term itself in English... and sadly my knowledge of anatomy isn't enough for me to Google appropriate key words!)

Thanks for any help.
Sophie Paterson
Local time: 03:00
knuckle bone
Explanation:
"knuckle bones" are cut from the joints (any joint, not just fingers...). People feed raw knuckle bones to dogs for dental hygiene.
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Cetacea
Switzerland
Local time: 04:00
Grading comment
Thank you! It seems to be the simplest term, is used for raw dog food and looks similar to the pic Jennifer found. Thanks!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3knuckle bone
Cetacea
4bones that feel sandy in cross-sectioncasper
5 -2Marrowbone
Max Kröger
2 -2marrowliz askew
Summary of reference entries provided
Sandknochencasper
Bild
Johanna Timm, PhD

  

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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
Marrowbone


Explanation:
"Marrowbone" suits much to your case

Max Kröger
Italy
Local time: 04:00
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Cetacea: By definition, "Sandknochen" do not contain marrow. See Jennifer's research.
2 hrs
disagree  Cilian O'Tuama: Evidently wrong
1 day10 hrs
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -2
marrow


Explanation:
a million apologies, don't know what happened above, but I did not intend to post so many references!!

Here is the one

http://www.fleisch-shop.de/product_info.php?info=p179_Bio-Ma...



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Note added at 11 mins (2010-05-21 16:03:31 GMT)
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have found what looks like an equivalent picture

raw caw bones

http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/bone-marrow.html

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Note added at 14 mins (2010-05-21 16:06:55 GMT)
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ha ha
above a typo for "cow"!!!

raw cow bones (which do contain marrow)

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=00p...

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:00
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Cetacea: By definition, "Sandknochen" do not contain marrow./Liz, the caption of that picture at fleischshop.de reads: "*Mark*- und Sandknochen", and it does indeed show both a marrow bone and a marrowless bone. (no "knuckle bones" for human consumption...)
3 hrs
  -> interesting, because the German reference looks like the bone contains marrow!!
disagree  Cilian O'Tuama: agree with C - no marrow
1 day11 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
bones that feel sandy in cross-section


Explanation:
...because they do not contain any marrow.


I don't think there's a single term in English to express this.

Btw, I've posted a reference separately.

casper
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Cetacea: That's a good description, and that's why they're so chewy, but there is a specific term in English...
1 hr
  -> Hmm...yes, but I didn't know until I read your answer :-)
disagree  liz askew: never come across this in English.
14 hrs
  -> Well, you just did -- when you read my answer. Cheers, liz :-)
agree  Andrew Swift: Merely to cancel out the all-advised disagree from LA.
1 day6 hrs
  -> Thank you very much, Mr Swift.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
knuckle bone


Explanation:
"knuckle bones" are cut from the joints (any joint, not just fingers...). People feed raw knuckle bones to dogs for dental hygiene.


    Reference: http://www.sojos.com/giveyourdogabone.html
    Reference: http://www.yourdogsuppliesstore.com/2/Knuckle_Bone_For_Dogs....
Cetacea
Switzerland
Local time: 04:00
Meets criteria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 24
Grading comment
Thank you! It seems to be the simplest term, is used for raw dog food and looks similar to the pic Jennifer found. Thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marga Shaw: This makes sense to me.
3 hrs
  -> Thank you, Marga.
agree  casper: Aha, da geht mir ein Licht auf! Btw, any idea what a 'first joint' is? I quote from the 2nd reference: "Made from the end bone in a cows leg at the first joint"
7 hrs
  -> Thank you, Jennifer. I guess depending on which leg we're talking about, it's either the knee or the elbow.
agree  liz askew: Correct terminology, rather than a description.
14 hrs
  -> Thank you, Liz.
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Reference comments


1 hr peer agreement (net): +4
Reference: Sandknochen

Reference information:
In der Küche als eigene Zutat von Bedeutung sind vor allem Knochen vom Rind und Kalb. In den Handel gelangen üblicherweise nur:

* Markknochen aus den Schenkeln, die in ihrem Inneren Knochenmark enthalten und
* Sandknochen aus den Kugelgelenken, die kein Mark enthalten und sich an den Schnittflächen „sandig“ anfühlen.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knochen_(Lebensmittel)

casper
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks very much for clarifying!


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: great research.
39 mins
agree  Cetacea: Great research, indeed. :-)
1 hr
neutral  liz askew: but it doesn't give the English term, which is what the asker needs.
2 hrs
  -> Right, liz, and that's why I've posted this as a reference, not an answer. Post Reference button: "Use this option to provide information that is not in itself an answer, but which may be helpful to either the asker or other answerers."
agree  Marga Shaw: With Johanna and Cetacea.
4 hrs
agree  MMUlr: spongiöser Knochen eben (medizinisch ... ;-) ) -> http://depts.washington.edu/bonebio/ASBMRed/structure/femur.... (weiter unten kann man die Markhöhle erkennen).
1 day17 hrs
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3 hrs
Reference: Bild

Reference information:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5130/dsc00071hf9.jpg

Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 11
Note to reference poster
Asker: Again, thank you. When I Google Image-d "knuckle bone" it came up with similar pics: http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.dogcrates-n-more.com/files/3277669/uploaded/82505%2520MEATY%2520KNUCKLE%2520BONE%2520SW.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.dogcrates-n-more.com/product/82505&usg=__-Q6VoZuGZsjlekP1XWJQaO3fF7o=&h=1492&w=2239&sz=287&hl=en&start=6&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=WUOLWHZbnzk6eM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dknuckle%2Bbone%2Bdogs%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1 http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.yourdogsuppliesstore.com/ProdImages/gimbornknucklebonefordogs.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.yourdogsuppliesstore.com/2/Knuckle_Bone_For_Dogs.html&usg=__GkgR9pmmiG_iEvBHIPDxfmUC4Ro=&h=300&w=300&sz=18&hl=en&start=10&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=0Hmuu1iQjqKp8M:&tbnh=116&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dknuckle%2Bbone%2Bdogs%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1

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May 24, 2010 - Changes made by Cetacea:
Created KOG entryKudoZ term => KOG term


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