ProZ.com global directory of translation services
The translation workplace
KudoZ home » German to English » Business/Commerce (general)

Besitzver­schaffung

English translation: transfer of possession


GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
German term or phrase:Besitzverschaffung
English translation:transfer of possession
Entered by: Edwin Miles
Options:
- Contribute to this entry

09:04 Nov 5, 2009Login or register (free) for more options.
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Business/Commerce (general) / Indian law
German term or phrase: Besitzver­schaffung
Eine Besitzver­schaffung ist nach indischem Recht zur Eigentumsübertragung zwar nicht erforderlich, wird jedoch aus praktischen Gründen stets im Vertrag mitgeregelt...
Edwin Miles
Germany
Local time: 23:38
transfer of possession
Explanation:
in contrast to transfer of ownership

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 3 days52 mins (2009-11-08 09:56:59 GMT) Post-grading
--------------------------------------------------

Thanks, Edwin
Selected response from:

Goldcoaster
Switzerland
Local time: 23:38
Grading comment
Thank you, turns out that was exactly what I was looking for!
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +4transfer of possession
Goldcoaster
5 +1delivery of possessionLena Nusselt
3see explanationCarola Striebel
3conveyance of (real) property
gangels
4 -1provision of financial collateral
makhno
3handing over of possessionAudrey Foster
3(Legal) possession/occupancy
Jonathan Fedler


Discussion entries: 9





  

Answers


31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(Legal) possession/occupancy


Explanation:
IMHO
(Pity there was so little context!!!!)

Jonathan Fedler
Israel
Local time: 00:38
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
provision of financial collateral


Explanation:
provision of financial collateral


    Reference: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Notice.do?mode=dbl&lang=de&ihmlang=...
makhno
Ukraine
Local time: 00:38
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Lena Nusselt: wouldn't that be "Besitzverschaffung an einer Finanzsicherheit"?
1 hr
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
handing over of possession


Explanation:
Most of the g-hits for "handing over of possession" are from India, it seems.

Audrey Foster
United States
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
conveyance of (real) property


Explanation:
'conveyance [and acceptance]' is the word used to describe the formal transfer of real estate

gangels
United States
Local time: 15:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 180
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
delivery of possession


Explanation:
(This is the translation given by Pons.)

I would spontaneously have suggested "obtaining possession", but the solution from the dictionary seems a lot more technical...

I understand "Besitzverschaffung" in this context to mean that in order for ownership to pass from one person to another, it is not necessary that the new owner actually has the object in his/her possession...


--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 21 hrs (2009-11-06 07:02:43 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

...just realized my explanation was a little odd. What I meant to say was that whereas with Eigentumsübertragung it is not necessary that the new owner actually has the object in his/her possession, this is then carried out by Besitzverschaffung.

Lena Nusselt
Germany
Local time: 23:38
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Teresa Reinhardt: Eigentumsübertragung is a legal act; Besitzverschaffung the concrete act of enabling the person to exercise the theoretical right; e.g., in cases where the seller is not willing
18 hrs
  -> thank you for the explanation!
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 day1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
see explanation


Explanation:
Just a try, this might be a nice way to explain it:
Indian law does not require that the assets are actually made available to the buyer for him to become their legal owner.

Carola Striebel
Germany
Local time: 23:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
transfer of possession


Explanation:
in contrast to transfer of ownership

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 3 days52 mins (2009-11-08 09:56:59 GMT) Post-grading
--------------------------------------------------

Thanks, Edwin

Goldcoaster
Switzerland
Local time: 23:38
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 15
Grading comment
Thank you, turns out that was exactly what I was looking for!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  sivara
39 mins
  -> Thanks, sivara
agree  Michael Sieger
5 hrs
  -> Thanks, Michael
agree  Bettina Rittsteuer
23 hrs
  -> Danke, Bettina
agree  Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
1 day6 hrs
  -> Thanks, Harald
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)




Return to KudoZ list
KudoZ™ translation help
The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.


See also:
ProZ.com term search
Search millions of term translations

Copyright © 1999-2009 ProZ.com - All rights reserved. Privacy policy