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English translation: secondly


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German term or phrase:anderseits
English translation:secondly
Entered by: David Williams
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09:18 May 31, 2010
German to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / Competition
German term or phrase: anderseits
Context:

Das Problem für den Hersteller verschärft sich einerseits dadurch, dass Geräte und Systeme nicht mehr zum alten Preis absetzbar sind und die Stückzahlen zurückgehen, anderseits entsteht weiterer Kostendruck durch neue Geräte von Wettbewerbern.

This is talking about the requirement for availability of the same equipment/products for several years. I don't quite understand the logic here. To me, the point following "anderseits" [sic] seems to be part of the preceding problem, NOT the opposite or a positive effect rather than a problem.
David Williams
Local time: 21:46
not 'but' but 'and'
Explanation:
The problem for the manufacturer is exacerbated on the one hand (FIRSTLY) by the fact that appliances and systems can no longer be sold at the old price and that sales numbers fall and, on the other (SECONDLY), by the greater pressure on costs from the new appliances developed/marketed by competitors

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Note added at 14 mins (2010-05-31 09:32:54 GMT)
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I can see your argument about reverse logic but would assume that the first part of the sentence refers to something that precedes - but what goes before ?
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polyglot45
Grading comment
Many thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +5not 'but' but 'and'polyglot45
4 +1on the other hand
Reinhold Wehrmann
4additionallyxxxValeria E.
3(but) then again, there iscasper


Discussion entries: 5





  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
on the other hand


Explanation:
This certainly is the counterpart to "einersets" - i. on the one hand ... and on the other hand ...

Reinhold Wehrmann
South Africa
Local time: 21:46
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Please read my question and the note with my draft translation in the discussion box. It doesn't make any sense for this to mean "on the other hand" here, as the point mentioned thereafter is a reason for what precedes, and NOT an opposite effect.

Asker: i.e. it is the "weiterer Kostendruck durch neue Geräte von Wettbewerbern" which results in that fact that products "nicht mehr zum alten Preis absetzbar sind und die Stückzahlen zurückgehen".


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  ElliCom: you got it right without fancy explanations
7 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(but) then again, there is


Explanation:
Yes, I agree with you, David: the point following "anderseits" seems to be part of the preceding problem, NOT the opposite.

Using "...(but) then again, there is..." would help you circumvent the problem, hopefully.

casper
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
not 'but' but 'and'


Explanation:
The problem for the manufacturer is exacerbated on the one hand (FIRSTLY) by the fact that appliances and systems can no longer be sold at the old price and that sales numbers fall and, on the other (SECONDLY), by the greater pressure on costs from the new appliances developed/marketed by competitors

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Note added at 14 mins (2010-05-31 09:32:54 GMT)
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I can see your argument about reverse logic but would assume that the first part of the sentence refers to something that precedes - but what goes before ?

polyglot45
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Many thanks!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Yes, I see your (and Jennifer's) point, thanks!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bernd Runge
12 mins
agree  Jayne Fox
41 mins
agree  Nicole Backhaus
2 hrs
agree  Melanie Meyer
3 hrs
agree  Claire Cox: Yes, I'd understand it in a firstly,... secondly... sense too
3 hrs
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1 day4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
additionally


Explanation:
one can also use - additionally - with this context


xxxValeria E.
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
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Changes made by editors
Jun 1, 2010 - Changes made by David Williams:
Edited KOG entryDavid Williams's old entry - "anderseits " => "secondly... "


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