German: Catherine Deneuve quoteEnglish translation: you can recognize the amateurs from the clumsiness 
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| GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW) | | German term or phrase: | Catherine Deneuve quote | | English translation: | you can recognize the amateurs from the clumsiness | | Entered by: | d_williams |
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Cinema, Film, TV, Drama | | German term or phrase: Catherine Deneuve quote | My text contains a quote by Cathérine Deneuve that I simply cannot find in English:
"Dilettanten erkennt man an der Plumpheit ihrer Komplimente. Der routinierte Verführer riskiert Kritik."
Does anyone know it? My working versions are:
“You can recognise dilettantes from the plumpmess of the compliments they make. The experienced seducer risks criticism.”
“You can recognise dilettantes by the plumpmess of the compliments they make. The experienced seducer dares to criticise.” |
| | Clarification request(s) and responsexxxFrancis Lee: 12:35pm Dec 10, 2007: What's the general context/readership for the translation? Where does the term crop up exactly? p.s. "recognise ... from"????
d_williams: 12:42pm Dec 10, 2007: Context - It is in (at the end of) the editorial of an employee magazine, which in this issue takes a retrospective look over 10 years of the magazine's existence.
xxxCMJ_Trans: 12:49pm Dec 10, 2007: and in what language is she supposed to have produced this pearl of wisdom, pray?
d_williams: 12:54pm Dec 10, 2007: I can only presume it was either in French or English, although I don't know, and my French is too limited to research it in French.
Ingeborg Gowans: 12:54pm Dec 10, 2007: can't find this quote anywhere ; but for starters: definitely not: "plumpness" , rather "awkwardness or clumsiness in giving compliments or something like that
Jeannette Gustavus: 1:26pm Dec 10, 2007: I also couldn't find the quote, but the original is quite possibly in French anyway. How about "...by their gauche compliments"?
d_williams: 1:34pm Dec 10, 2007: gauche - Thanks, that sounds pretty appropriate :-)
d_williams: 3:24pm Dec 10, 2007: By the way, the readership of the employee magazine consists are predominantly techncially minded employees of a major golbal corporation.
Caro Giese: 5:04pm Dec 10, 2007: Ich frage mich schon die ganze Zeit, ob gemeint ist, dass der Routinier es wagt, die Dame zu kritisieren, oder ob er es vielmehr wagt, Dinge zu sagen, für die er selbst kritisiert werden könnte. Etiennes Lösung umgeht das Problem sehr elegant.
d_williams: 5:12pm Dec 10, 2007: Ich verstand es als Ersteres.
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| | you can recognize the amateurs from the clumsiness | Explanation:
You can recognize the amateurs from the clumsiness of their amorous compliments. The experienced flirter takes risks.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-12-10 16:54:38 GMT)
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No physical source, just that I have met her personally and spoken with her several times, and this is the idea she would express.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-12-10 17:17:00 GMT)
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recognize is always with Z |
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| you can recognize the amateurs from the clumsiness
Explanation:
You can recognize the amateurs from the clumsiness of their amorous compliments. The experienced flirter takes risks.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-12-10 16:54:38 GMT)
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No physical source, just that I have met her personally and spoken with her several times, and this is the idea she would express.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-12-10 17:17:00 GMT)
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recognize is always with Z
| | Note from asker to answerer | Notes to answerer
Asker: Great, thanks! I can't find any hits for it on the Internet mind you. Do you have a source by any chance?
Asker: Fantastic, thank you! And would she (if she were writing) use the US spelling "recognize"?
Asker: I'm sure it can be with S, e.g. http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=eL4jU.&search=recognise or http://www.dict.cc/?s=recognise, but never mind :-)
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