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German term or phrase:Altbier
English translation:Altbier
Entered by:Danjela
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Cooking / Culinary
German term or phrase: Altbier
It's in another recipe (involving Blutwurst - you don't want to know!). A couple of tablespoons in the list of ingredients, what's the nearest English equivalent? I somehow associate Altbier with the Duesseldorf Altstadt (misspent youth) so is it lager from Duesseldorf?
mbrodie
United Kingdom
Clarification request(s) and response
MMUlr: 6:35am Apr 1, 2005: Just to refresh your memory ... no, not lager, but see here: http://www.rezeptedepot.de/lexikon/a/altbier.html - and Fantutti's URL (old ale). -
xxxFrancis Lee: 11:40am Apr 1, 2005: As I suggested for Bockbier (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/987201?float=1), I'd definitely leave the German term, because pouring in some "old ale" instead of Altbier (which is something different) could lead to disaster. -

Altbier
Explanation:
Here is link to the Bierlexikon of the Brauerbund. Guys who should know:))
At first I thought like you that Lager and Altbier would be the same but that's wrong. Altbier is "obergärig" and Lager "untergärig"!!
(Whatever that means:))
As they say that Altbier is a very regional thing, I'd leave it as it is. Maybe we/you/someone will find an English beer with similar qualities ... but with the German Reinheitsgebot that will be hard!:)
Prost!!
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Danjela
Germany
Note from asker to answerer
thanks for help, much appreciated, will leave as it is with a note, hoping to avert any culinary disasters!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +5AltbierDanjela
4 +3old ale
Fantutti
4 +1AleIngrid Blank
4Altbier (top-fermented dark beer)
Jeannette Bauroth


  

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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Ale

Explanation:
Have a look here:

German Altbier could best be described as a German Pale Ale in terms of style,
... This style is significantly drier and less fruity than its English ...
www.ebrew.com/amber_ales/german_altbier.htm - 16k -

Ingrid Blank
PRO pts in category: 4
Note from asker to answerer
thanks for help, have decided to leave as it is with a little note, don't want to be responsible for any culinary disasters!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Mario Marcolin: or German Ale
6 hrs
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
old ale

Explanation:
Altbier
... the **British old ale, and the German ale known as altbier**. Altbier, meaning
old beer, is so called because of the reverential grasp its brewers have ...
www.allaboutbeer.com/style/24.1-altbier.html

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Note added at 12 mins (2005-04-01 05:47:27 GMT)
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BeerFestivals.org - Beer Traveller Series - Dusseldorf\'s Altbier ...
Altbier, which means \'old style,\' is the traditional malty ale served in the bars of
... **Düsseldorf\'s Altbier: Old Style German Ale**. Ale in Germany? ...
www.beerfestivals.org/archive/bt/altbier.htm

Fantutti
Canada
PRO pts in category: 4
Note from asker to answerer
thanks for help, but have decided to leave it as it is with little note, don't want to be responsible for any culinary disasters!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Dr.G.MD
6 mins

agree MMUlr
50 mins

agree aykon: even if Altbier is a little different, let's just use Old Ale for the recipe or maybe write "Altbier (similar to Old Ale)"
3 hrs
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Comment: thanks for help, but have decided to leave it as it is with little note, don't want to be responsible for any culinary disasters!


56 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
Altbier

Explanation:
Here is link to the Bierlexikon of the Brauerbund. Guys who should know:))
At first I thought like you that Lager and Altbier would be the same but that's wrong. Altbier is "obergärig" and Lager "untergärig"!!
(Whatever that means:))
As they say that Altbier is a very regional thing, I'd leave it as it is. Maybe we/you/someone will find an English beer with similar qualities ... but with the German Reinheitsgebot that will be hard!:)
Prost!!


    Reference: http://www.brauer-bund.de/bierfans/sorten/inhalt.htm
Danjela
Germany
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
Note from asker to answerer
thanks for help, much appreciated, will leave as it is with a note, hoping to avert any culinary disasters!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree James Girard: "top fermented" and "bottom fermented" - JAGirard, Deusseldorf, Germany ;)
2 hrs

agree xxxFrancis Lee: yes - leave "Altbier" in this case, because this is a specific ingredient of a recipe
5 hrs

agree rangepost
7 hrs

agree Ian M-H
7 hrs

agree gangels
8 hrs
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15 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Altbier (top-fermented dark beer)

Explanation:
I'd leave the original term and give the explanation in brackets to give the cook an idea of what he/she is supposed to use in case they don't have Altbier around...

Jeannette Bauroth
Germany
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
Note from asker to answerer
thanks for help, have decided to leave how it is but with less scientific explanation
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