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English translation: civil service career positions


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German term or phrase:fest besoldete Beamtenstelle
English translation:civil service career positions
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11:03 May 6, 2010
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Bus/Financial - Economics
German term or phrase: fest besoldete Beamtenstelle
This is a quote from a translation test I took two years ago. I am currently looking through my exam sheets and am trying to improve the mistakes I made.
The text was about "current" economics in America (taken from a book printed in the early 1950s):

Öffentliche Dienste im weitesten Sinn leiden immer am stärksten unter inflationären Druck. Eine Abwanderung aus festbesoldeten Beamtenstellungen, jedenfalls in qualitativer Hinsicht, worauf Galbraith als einziger hinweist, ist ein unzweifelhaftes Anzeichen fpr die Erosion, die die stetige Verteuerung des Lebens, das Nagen an der Kaufkraft der Währung bewirkt.

I translated the term with "tenured civil servants", but the examiners did not like the word "tenured". Therefore, I'd like to get some suggestions on how to express it better.

Thanks for your feedback!
Djamila_Vilcsko
Germany
Local time: 00:41
civil service career positions
Explanation:
Your examiners were right to reject "tenured civil servants" since the term isn't used in the US civil service system. After a probationary period a civil servant obtains "career status." I retired from the US civil service a few years ago. I don't think you need to translate "festbesoldet".

The Federal Civil Service System includes all appointed positions in the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the Federal government, except for military positions in the uniformed services. The positions they hold can be permanent, term (more than one year but less than four years), or temporary (less than one year). The Civil Service consists of:

-- Competitive Service Positions
-- Excepted Service Positions
-- Senior Executive Service (SES) Positions

If candidates are successful in getting selected for a position, they are generally given a Career Conditional Appointment. What this means is that after performing successfully for three years, they receive career status, which gives them a greater degree of protection should there be the need for a reduction in force.

http://www.transitionjobs.us/federal-civil-service-outlining...

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4civil service career positions
Kim Metzger
3 +1established Civil Service posts
Clive Phillips
3permanent, salaried civil servantjashio
3secure civil service position
Donal Murphy-Bokern


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fest besoldete beamtenstelle
permanent, salaried civil servant


Explanation:
Permanent as in not temporary with a fixed salary.

see: http://www.legislationline.org/documents/action/popup/id/369... A person may serve as a member of the Supreme Court or the Supreme Administrative Court only if he holds currently, or has held previously, an appointment as a permanent salaried justice of the Court.

I am not absolutely certain, but it seems to fit, especially in light of the cited comment of Galbraith (at least as I understood the comment).

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fest besoldete beamtenstelle
established Civil Service posts


Explanation:
An established Civil Service post in the UK is one to which full terms of service apply, including monthly pay (as opposed to daily or weekly wage).

Clive Phillips
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secure civil service position


Explanation:
In the context used by in the text book, I think this is about the willingness or reluctance of people to acquire and hold security civil service jobs as affected by inflation etc. So the context is 'security'.

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civil service career positions


Explanation:
Your examiners were right to reject "tenured civil servants" since the term isn't used in the US civil service system. After a probationary period a civil servant obtains "career status." I retired from the US civil service a few years ago. I don't think you need to translate "festbesoldet".

The Federal Civil Service System includes all appointed positions in the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the Federal government, except for military positions in the uniformed services. The positions they hold can be permanent, term (more than one year but less than four years), or temporary (less than one year). The Civil Service consists of:

-- Competitive Service Positions
-- Excepted Service Positions
-- Senior Executive Service (SES) Positions

If candidates are successful in getting selected for a position, they are generally given a Career Conditional Appointment. What this means is that after performing successfully for three years, they receive career status, which gives them a greater degree of protection should there be the need for a reduction in force.

http://www.transitionjobs.us/federal-civil-service-outlining...



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