Diplom-Betriebswirt

English translation: Degree in Business Administration

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German term or phrase:	Diplom-Betriebswirt
English translation:	Degree in Business Administration
Entered by:	laveva

19:34 Jan 10, 2002

German to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Education / Pedagogy

German term or phrase: Diplom-Betriebswirt

Hi,

Once again, this term appears on a graduation certificate. The text is as follows:

hat die staatliche Prüfung für Diplom-Betriebswirte erfolgreich abgelegt und wird die staatliche Bezeichnung DIPLOM-BETRIEBSWIRT (BERUFSAKADEMIE) - DIPL.-BETRIEBSWIRT (BA) - verliehen.

My confusion lies in the differentiation between (German)Diploma meaning "degree" or "diploma" in English. Or could Diplom-Betriebswirt possibly mean MBA (Master of Business Administration) in this case?

I greatly appreciate all input.

Thanks :)

laveva

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Explanation:
This exact term came up a while back and was well answered by someone who had gained the qualification - it would be worthwhile to review the answer and other good suggestions made at that time.

All the best - Deborah

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Deborah Shannon
Germany
Local time: 17:08

Grading comment

Thanks a million for the advice. It provided me with the information I needed.
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Summary of answers provided

5 +4

degree in business admin.

Garrett Hering

4 +1

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Deborah Shannon

Master of Commerce

Thomas Bollmann

qualified management expert

Julia Neyer

Master of Business Administration

Kim Metzger

3 +1

Betriebswirt (corresponds to a master degree in business administration)

Beate Lutzebaeck

5 -1

BA (Hons.) Business Administration

Gillian Searl

Answers

4 mins confidence:

Master of Commerce

Explanation:
That's what Routledge tells it.
Surely, it is not exactly the same but it could work as there is no exact equivalent as far as I know

Routledge

Thomas Bollmann
Germany
Local time: 17:08
Native speaker of:

German

21 mins confidence:

qualified management expert

Explanation:
I checked with Harper Collins dictionary, indicating that the word "Diplom-" in front of a job title should be translated with qualified, and the most appropriate translation for Betriebswirt(in) should be management expert in my opinion. Hope that helps!

Julia Neyer
Local time: 11:08
Native speaker of:

German

28 mins confidence:

Master of Business Administration

Explanation:
In the UK a diploma is the same as an MA in the US. I think the BA in parentheses mean Business Admin.

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means Business Admin

Hamblock/Wessels - Gro�w�rterbuch Wirtschafts Englisch

Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 09:08
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 903

Grading comment

Diplom-Beriebswirts is actually only a Degree, not Masters

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Comment: Diplom-Beriebswirts is actually only a Degree, not Masters

39 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

degree in business admin.

Explanation:
Hamblock/Wessels goes with MBA or graduate in business management. But does "Diplom" really mean master? Not really, since that term belongs to another system of accreditation. A translator cannot grant that title. I would go with lowercase "degree in business administration" or "management". On a certificate, this is naturally trickier: Your client likely wants an official uppercase title. Maybe you should retain the German in addition to the translation of the degree.

Also, diploma = degree as translation of German Diplom. Only diff. is that the U.S. English cognate is becoming outdated.

Hope that helps.

Garrett Hering

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Betriebswirt (corresponds to a master degree in business administration)

Explanation:
Tricky, tricky ...

Maybe I can offer some information that may help you solving this dilemma.

I studied Betriebswirtschaft in Germany for four semesters and passed the Diplom-Vorprüfung.

The Central Office for Foreign Education of the Secretariat of the Standing Conference of Ministers of Education and Cultural Affairs of the Laender in the Federal Republic of Germany issued me with the following "Bescheinigung" in English, relating the German degree to the British/American system:

"... is why the course of study leading to the "Diplom-Vorprüfung" has another structure and offers a wider fundamental education than the Bachelor's examination within the British and similar systems of higher education which is a final examination. As far as the intensity and the level reached are concerned, the German "Diplom-Vorprüfung" may be compared to the successful completion of two years of a British or American bachelor's degree course in the corresponding field."

I guess if two years of study make you a bachelor, the entire course would correspond to a master degree. In any case, I would use the German term and add the explanation in brackets.

One thing I am certain about, though, is that a Diplom does not equate to a diploma, since a diploma can typically be attained within a year or, in some cases, even at the end of a six-week course.

Beate Lutzebaeck
New Zealand
Local time: 03:08
Native speaker of:

German,

English
PRO pts in category: 8

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

Advice: search ProZ glossary too

Deborah Shannon
Germany
Local time: 17:08
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 143

Grading comment

Thanks a million for the advice. It provided me with the information I needed.

12 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

BA (Hons.) Business Administration

Explanation:
And the person who put that answer in was me!

The difference here is that it was not taken at a "Fachhochschule" but rather at a "Berufsakademie". For the most part translating this would not be necessary or useful. If this is a CV for example I would simply put the qualification and the name of the organisation where the person studied. If you feel you must translate it, I'd use "through day-release".

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We certainly did not get a masters only a Bachelors!

Gillian Searl
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

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