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Kaufmann Profil M

English translation: apprenticeship in business administration/ office clerk


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16:09 Sep 25, 2011
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Bus/Financial - Education / Pedagogy / Banking qualifications
German term or phrase: Kaufmann Profil M
This is encountered in a banking apprenticeship certificate and appears to be a level of qualification reached following training:

"Herr X absolvierte die 3-jährige Ausbildung zum eidgenössischen Kaufmann Profil M."

This is clearly specific to Switzerland and the Swiss system - but can anyone explain the significance of the "Profil M" part?
Louise Gough
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:42
English translation:apprenticeship in business administration/ office clerk
Explanation:
"Kaufmann" stands for the qualification of a KV (kaufmaennische Lehre, which is an apprenticeship as office clerk)," Profil M", must mean Profil "Matura", which is the Swiss equivalent of A2 levels, or Baccalaureat in French. The path leading to this qualification is a three year apprenticeship, whereby the apprentice works in an office (bank, insurance, other business...O)and spends some time ( I think it's about 1 to 1.5 days per week) in college, learning foreign languages, maths, general studies..) The idea is to come out with something equivalent to vocational A-levels. In comparison to a normal apprenticeship as an office clerk, they come out with additional academic qualifications. In order to get a place on one of these courses/apprenticeships
, students need above-average equivalents of GCSEs.
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Corina Holzherr
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Thank you for your detailed explanation. This makes a lot of sense in the context. I wish our system in England was a bit more like this!
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Profil M
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apprenticeship in business administration/ office clerk


Explanation:
"Kaufmann" stands for the qualification of a KV (kaufmaennische Lehre, which is an apprenticeship as office clerk)," Profil M", must mean Profil "Matura", which is the Swiss equivalent of A2 levels, or Baccalaureat in French. The path leading to this qualification is a three year apprenticeship, whereby the apprentice works in an office (bank, insurance, other business...O)and spends some time ( I think it's about 1 to 1.5 days per week) in college, learning foreign languages, maths, general studies..) The idea is to come out with something equivalent to vocational A-levels. In comparison to a normal apprenticeship as an office clerk, they come out with additional academic qualifications. In order to get a place on one of these courses/apprenticeships
, students need above-average equivalents of GCSEs.

Corina Holzherr
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Thank you for your detailed explanation. This makes a lot of sense in the context. I wish our system in England was a bit more like this!
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Reference: Profil M

Reference information:
http://www.kvschweiz.ch/Bildung/Grundbildung/Ausbildungswege...

Johanna Timm, PhD
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Asker: Many thanks for your help, Johanna.

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Reference information:
http://www.urdorf.ch/xml_1/internet/de/application/d4/d23/d1...

Corina Holzherr
United Kingdom
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
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