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ohne Abschluss

English translation: the degree was never completed


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09:45 Nov 12, 2004
German to English translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy
German term or phrase: ohne Abschluss
1995 - März 1997 XXX UNIVERSITÄT
Soziologie, BWL und Kommunikationswissenschaften
ohne Abschluss

Would you take this to mean the degree was never completed or that there was no final examination? Thanks.
johnduke
English translation:the degree was never completed
Explanation:

:-)

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That is say

\"Ohne Abschluss\" should be \"No degree\"

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Note added at 8 hrs 3 mins (2004-11-12 17:48:41 GMT)
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Correction:
\"That is to say\"

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Note added at 8 hrs 15 mins (2004-11-12 18:00:25 GMT)
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A couple of people who use the phrase \"no degree\" in their CVs

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:kJPvVct2F3MJ:www.biolog...

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:BXKVlxlk-vcJ:lilt.ics.h...

Selected response from:

Annika Neudecker
Local time: 06:46
Grading comment
Many thanks.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +10the degree was never completed
Annika Neudecker
3 +5did not graduatexxxFrancis Lee
3 +3finals not taken
Steve Yates


  

Answers


12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
finals not taken


Explanation:
Although it means the degree was not completed by this student, this is how I would translate 'ohne Abschluss'

Steve Yates
Local time: 05:46
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  sylvie malich: this I believe is a more positive way of saying "degree wasn't completed". // On the other hand writeaway brings up a vital point.
3 mins
neutral  writeaway: unless this is the case, imho it's too specific. maybe a semester or 2 is missing or the final dissertation. afaik the German gives no indication as to why the person never got a degree
1 hr
agree  Anne Schulz: John, if it is a university, there's always a degree and a final exam, so the person just didn't finish his studies.
3 hrs
neutral  Annika Neudecker: Anne, there's not always a "final exam". Sometimes you have to write a thesis, a dissertation etc. (without taking an *exam*)
6 hrs
agree  xxxsonja29
6 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +5
did not graduate


Explanation:


xxxFrancis Lee
Local time: 06:46
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  John Bowden: This is the best, most natural, academic phrase
3 hrs
  -> You are too kind, sir.
agree  gangels: The ONLY answer. A degree is EARNED after you get a passing gradein COMPLETING the finals
4 hrs
agree  Sarah Downing
4 hrs
agree  xxxsonja29
5 hrs
agree  writeaway: also. perhaps more idiomatic than the use of complete but not the only answer (is there ever only one way to translate something? :-) )
15 hrs
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +10
the degree was never completed


Explanation:

:-)

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Note added at 3 mins (2004-11-12 09:48:57 GMT)
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That is say

\"Ohne Abschluss\" should be \"No degree\"

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Note added at 8 hrs 3 mins (2004-11-12 17:48:41 GMT)
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Correction:
\"That is to say\"

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Note added at 8 hrs 15 mins (2004-11-12 18:00:25 GMT)
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A couple of people who use the phrase \"no degree\" in their CVs

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:kJPvVct2F3MJ:www.biolog...

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:BXKVlxlk-vcJ:lilt.ics.h...



Annika Neudecker
Local time: 06:46
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 14
Grading comment
Many thanks.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sueg
0 min
  -> Thanks :-)
agree  Cilian O'Tuama: erfolgreich abgebrochen
9 mins
  -> Thanks :-)
agree  Guus van Osch
10 mins
  -> Thanks :-)
agree  Tamara Ferencak
10 mins
  -> Thanks :-)
agree  Daniela Wolff
14 mins
  -> Thanks :-)
agree  anisco: ja, erfolgreich abgebrochen, mit Party!
15 mins
  -> Danke ;-)
agree  writeaway: and with Cilian :-)/and with Sarah Downing :-)
1 hr
  -> Thanks :-)
agree  EllenEZBless
1 hr
  -> Thanks :-)
disagree  gangels: you EARN or have a degree AWARDED after COMPLETING exams
6 hrs
  -> Klaus, this is probably part of a CV. If the person writes "ohne Abschluss" in a CV that means that he/she never finished his/her studies. I'm confused now... why is what I wrote different from what Francis wrote. I meant to say the same thing....
agree  Sarah Downing: That's strange Klaus. To me as a native speaker "to complete a degree" is a perfectly natural phrase, as it seems to be to several other natives.
6 hrs
  -> Thanks, Sarah!! :-)
agree  xxxsonja29
7 hrs
  -> Danke :-)
agree  Milena Sahakian
11 hrs
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