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weder im Zeitpunkt

English translation: neither at the time when this power comes into effect nor when it is (actually) exercised

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German term or phrase:weder im Zeitpunkt
English translation:neither at the time when this power comes into effect nor when it is (actually) exercised
Entered by: Natalie Wilcock (X)

10:32 Aug 3, 2004
German to English translations [PRO]
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German term or phrase: weder im Zeitpunkt
Diese Ermächtigung gilt jedoch nur mit der Maßgabe, dass die unter Ausschluss des Bezugsrechts gemäß § 186 Abs. 3 Satz 4 AktG ausgegebenen Aktien insgesamt 10 % des Grundkapitals nicht übersteigen, und zwar weder im Zeitpunkt des Wirksamwerdens noch im Zeitpunkt der Ausübung dieser Ermächtigung.

Having problems conveying the construct 'weder im Zeitpunkt....noch im Zeitpunkt...'

Suggestion: ...neither at the time of this power coming into effect or being exercised..
or: ...neither upon this power coming into effect or being exercised.
Natalie Wilcock (X)
Local time: 15:47
neither at the time when this power comes into effect nor when it is (actually) exercised
Explanation:
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Selected response from:

mckinnc
Local time: 15:47
Grading comment
Thank you. Regards, Natalie
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4neither (when)... nor (when)
Christian
4 +2neither at the time when the (power) becomes effected nor at the time when it is exercised
Victor Dewsbery
4 +1neither at the time when this power comes into effect nor when it is (actually) exercised
mckinnc


  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
neither (when)... nor (when)


Explanation:
NEITHER WHEN... NOR WHEN... (so-called "neither-nor construction" - "weder-noch Konstruktion)
HTH

Christian
Local time: 15:47
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 20

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  RosettaT
3 mins
agree  Lucyna Długołęcka
6 mins
agree  Eleonore Ladwig
9 mins
agree  Ellen Zittinger
14 hrs
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
neither at the time when the (power) becomes effected nor at the time when it is exercised


Explanation:
You need the "neither-nor" structure suggested by Christian, but the greater problem IMO was to get the "im Zeitpunkt ...". I think the best solution is "at the time when" (followed by a verb instead of the German noun).

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Note added at 11 mins (2004-08-03 10:44:08 GMT)
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Typo: that should have been \"becomes effective\".

Victor Dewsbery
Germany
Local time: 15:47
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 30

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Armorel Young: I think "when" is rather too weak for the context so prefer Victor's translation
1 hr
agree  gangels (X): neither at the time of taking effect nor at the time of exercise
3 hrs
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
neither at the time when this power comes into effect nor when it is (actually) exercised


Explanation:
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mckinnc
Local time: 15:47
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 11
Grading comment
Thank you. Regards, Natalie

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Laurel Porter (X): I think "comes into effect" is preferable to Victor's "becomes effective" - typical legalese, and well done.
2 hrs
  -> thank you
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