German: oberbergischEnglish translation: Oberbergian / located in (the district of) Oberberg KudoZ The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators ... More |
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| GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW) | | German term or phrase: | oberbergisch | | English translation: | Oberbergian / located in (the district of) Oberberg | | Entered by: | Annette Scheulen |
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German to English translations [PRO] Marketing - Geography | | German term or phrase: oberbergisch | Context:
Im oberbergischen Städtchen ... treffen die weltweit verzweigten Vertriebs- und Beschaffungswege des Familienunternehmens XXX zusammen.
According to the website http://www.oberbergischesland.de/e-index.phtml it could be something like "situated in the Oberberg district", but I'm not sure whether that's a good translation.
The text is meant for Britain; would that mean anything to a Brit anyway?
Please note the following sentence from the website quoted above:
However, the denomination "Oberbergisch" (literally "with high hills") does not derive from the natural shape of our hilly landscape but refers to the former rulers of the land, i.e. the Counts von Berg.
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| | Clarification request(s) and responseAnnette Scheulen (asker): 6:47am Oct 2, 2004: To SwissTell - Where, please? It is not in the glossary.
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| | Oberbergian / located in (the district of) Oberberg | Explanation: Obviously, Oberberg being a small region in Germany, one would not expect a Brit to be familiar with it. There's nothing you can do about that. You can always leave it out if you find it too confusing. |
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| Note from asker to answererI ended up using a very free translation: "situated in the nature park Bergisches Land", in the hopes that this would mean more to a British reader, but I added a comment with this translation in case anybody prefers a more literal translation.
"Oberberg district/district of Oberberg" is not a translation of "Oberbergisches Land", which – that's correct – is not translated, but of "Oberbergischer Kreis". "Oberberg", which sounded strange to me at first, seems to be quite common in that region, see e.g. http://www.oberberg-online.de/ or http://www.oberberg.com/. The EU translates "Oberbergischer Kreis" as "Oberberg district" (http://europa.eu.int/comm/consumers/redress/out_of_court/commu/acce_just04_en_ccb_en.pdf), Siemens as "district of Oberberg" (http://www.medical.siemens.com/siemens/en_INT/rg_marcom_FBAs/files/press/2003/PDF/MagicWeb_en.pdf).
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| high mountain community (town)
Explanation: This should work.
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or: upper mountain town.
I just read your note and my answers may not fit if that business about the von Bergs applies to your translation
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| Oberbergian / located in (the district of) Oberberg
Explanation: Obviously, Oberberg being a small region in Germany, one would not expect a Brit to be familiar with it. There's nothing you can do about that. You can always leave it out if you find it too confusing.
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| Note from asker to answererI ended up using a very free translation: "situated in the nature park Bergisches Land", in the hopes that this would mean more to a British reader, but I added a comment with this translation in case anybody prefers a more literal translation.
"Oberberg district/district of Oberberg" is not a translation of "Oberbergisches Land", which – that's correct – is not translated, but of "Oberbergischer Kreis". "Oberberg", which sounded strange to me at first, seems to be quite common in that region, see e.g. http://www.oberberg-online.de/ or http://www.oberberg.com/. The EU translates "Oberbergischer Kreis" as "Oberberg district" (http://europa.eu.int/comm/consumers/redress/out_of_court/commu/acce_just04_en_ccb_en.pdf), Siemens as "district of Oberberg" (http://www.medical.siemens.com/siemens/en_INT/rg_marcom_FBAs/files/press/2003/PDF/MagicWeb_en.pdf).
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| upper Berg County
Explanation: As it obviously refers to the region south-east of Wuppertal between Agger and Sieg.It is not mountainous at all and I think your reference to the Grafen von Berg is more appropriate.I suppose the BERG part may have come from the contrast that must have struck early travellers when comparing it with the very flat Netherlands.
Cheers
Wolf
ehemals Nuetzenberg/Elberfeld
| Wolf Brosius South Africa Works in field Native speaker of: German, English
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| Oberbergisches Land
Explanation: DO NOT TRANSLATE IT IS A NAME like DEVONSHIRE etc.
... Lur-[forest] [35,371] Lurnvald Lutuvald Lyra- vald {83} Lyrawoll Lyro- wal, Sauerland with Oberbergisches Land, NRW, centre: [51,0°N 7.6°E]. ...
www.badenhausen.net/harz/svava/ThsGlossary.htm
... worthwile. Around Eckenhagen, several vantage points are to be found which offer a marvellous view of the Oberbergisches Land. At ...
www.heilklima.de/he_kurorte. shtml
... Name: Ductina ductifrons Age: Devonian Formation: Oberbergisches Land Location: Wuppertal, Varresbeck, Germany Size: Trilobite is 0.6 inches long. ...
www.trilobites.com/site/index. cfm?action=item&prod_id=2197& - 3
... homepage: www.rhein-sieg-klinik.de General information: The township Nümbrecht is a recognised curative spa situated in the Oberbergisches Land, between the ...
www.dbkg.de/kliniken/rhein/pdf/RSK_engl.pdf
... Eberhard von Afferath in 1131 and is one of the oldest residences of the lords of the manor, which were established here at the Oberbergisches Land in the ...
www.bonn-regio.de/ns/articleview.php?folderID=10204& sub_folderID=10215&articleID=672 - 45k
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The district is not OBERNBERG but OBERBERGISCHES LAND
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