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German: Altkommunisten

English translation: Communist/communist old guard / old-guard communists







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German term or phrase:Altkommunisten
English translation:Communist/communist old guard / old-guard communists
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Social Sciences - Government / Politics
German term or phrase: Altkommunisten
A text on the power struggles in the GDR's SED in the 1960s. Altkommunisten refers to the old guard of communists who had been in the resistance against Nazism. I am not sure if Old Communists fits.
BerlinGer
Germany
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writeaway: 12:21pm Jul 18, 2005: 1900????? those are pre-communists! -

the old guard / old-guard communists
Explanation:
www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=old+communists+GDR+old+guard&btnG=Google+Search

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Note added at 12 mins (2005-07-09 14:24:10 GMT)
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or, as Kim just suggested (thanks!), *the communist/Communist old guard*

see:
www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=Communist+old+gu...
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silfilla
United States
Note from asker to answerer
I had hoped that someone had come across an English text on the Communists of the generation of 1900 in the context of the GDR, or something similar in Czechoslovakia.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +11the old guard / old-guard communistssilfilla
4Old Communist s/ orthodox CommunistsKARIN ISBELL
3Communists from day one
writeaway
2ex-communists
Mustafa Er (BSc MA)


  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +11
the old guard / old-guard communists

Explanation:
www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=old+communists+GDR+old+guard&btnG=Google+Search

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Note added at 12 mins (2005-07-09 14:24:10 GMT)
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or, as Kim just suggested (thanks!), *the communist/Communist old guard*

see:
www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=Communist+old+gu...

silfilla
United States
Specializes in field
PRO pts in category: 34
Note from asker to answerer
I had hoped that someone had come across an English text on the Communists of the generation of 1900 in the context of the GDR, or something similar in Czechoslovakia.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree Kim Metzger: Or the Communist old guard with Communist capitalized.
6 mins
  -> yes (not capitalized works too) ... thanks, Kim!

agree RobinB
25 mins
  -> thanks, Robin

agree Laurens Landkroon
40 mins
  -> thanks, Somerset

agree Robert Sleigh: or "die-hard"
1 hr
  -> thanks, but IMO *die-hard* also implies a value judgment; Altkommunist just refers to s.o. who was a communist from day one & fought the Nazis :-)

agree Marcus Malabad: Communist old guard
2 hrs
  -> thanks

agree writeaway: Communist old guard
4 hrs
  -> thanks

agree stolley: The decay of the official communist movement in the post-Lenin period, ...
18 hrs
  -> thanks

agree Ian M-H
20 hrs
  -> thanks

agree Juntice
1 day11 hrs

agree tolketjenesten
5 days

agree Maria Ferstl
13 days
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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
ex-communists

Explanation:
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Mustafa Er (BSc MA)
Turkey
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish, Native in EnglishEnglish
Note from asker to answerer
As I said, Altkommunisten means a certain generation and the context was before 1989, they were still Communists.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral Ian M-H: they were very definitely still communists
19 hrs
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Comment: As I said, Altkommunisten means a certain generation and the context was before 1989, they were still Communists.


4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Communists from day one

Explanation:
just a thought-those that joined from the beginning and stuck to their convictions.

writeaway
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Note from asker to answerer
No, it referes to a generation.
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Comment: No, it referes to a generation.


6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Old Communist s/ orthodox Communists

Explanation:
since the term Old Catholic (Muret Sanders) is the translation for altkatholisch, 'Old Communists' ['Old' would have to be capitalized]could fill the bill as well; 'orthodox Communists' may also be correct. Both terms seem to depict individuals who adhered to the original communist doctrine prior to Stalin, as opposed to the SED-parvenues/climbers/apparatchikis.

KARIN ISBELL
United States
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 6
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