Der Papst ist mein Kaplan, Maximilian mein Condottiere, Venedig mein Kanzler und Frankreich...

English translation: The Pope is my chaplain, the Emperor Maximilian my mercenary, Venice my chamberlain, the King of France my courier

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German term or phrase:Der Papst ist mein Kaplan, Maximilian mein Condottiere, Venedig mein Kanzler und Frankreich...
English translation:The Pope is my chaplain, the Emperor Maximilian my mercenary, Venice my chamberlain, the King of France my courier
Entered by: Hilary Davies Shelby

14:55 Jul 26, 2005
German to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History / Renaissance period
German term or phrase: Der Papst ist mein Kaplan, Maximilian mein Condottiere, Venedig mein Kanzler und Frankreich...
Hello all!
I'm still looking for this quote by Ludovica Sforza. Apparently it's quite a famous one, but I'm beginning to wonder...

"Der Papst ist mein Kaplan, Maximilian mein Condottiere, Venedig mein Kanzler und Frankreich mein Kurier."

Can anyone point me in the right direction? (I'm not asking anyone to translate it, it's too long), but if anyone can find it/knows it I'd be very grateful!

Thanks a lot!
Hilary Davies Shelby
United States
Local time: 13:53
Pope Alexander was his chaplain, the Emperor Maximilian his Condottiere, Venice his chamberlain etc
Explanation:
Lodovico Sforza, called 'il Moro,' the Moor, is the most perfect type of the despot of that age, and, as a kind of natural product, almost disarms our moral judgement. Notwithstanding the profound immorality of the means he employed, he used them with perfect ingenuousness; no o ne would probably have been more astonished than himself to learn that for the choice of means as well as of ends a human being is morally.responsible; he would rather have reckoned it as a singular virtue that, so far as possible, he had abstained from too free a use of the punishment of death. He accepted as no more than his due the almost fabulous respect of the Italians for his political genius. In 1486 he boasted that the Pope Alexander was his chaplain, the Emperor Maximilian his Condottiere, Venice his chamberlain, and the King of France his courier, who must come and go at his bidding.

http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/hst/european/Th...

Each of these states was dependent on mercenary troops for their defence. The mercenaries-known as condotterie-were an unruly ill- disciplined lot posing a danger to their masters as well as to the common people among; whom they were billeted
http://www.dailymirror.lk/2002/12/03/opinion/2.html
17 Jahre verbrachte Leonardo in Mailand am Hofe Ludovico Sforzas. Erst die Niederlage des Herzogs nach der französischen Belagerung Mailands (August 1499 bis April 1500) bereitete der innigen Beziehung zwischen dem Künstler und seinem Mäzen ein jähes Ende. Sforza galt als Mann von gewaltigem Kunstverständnis und einer nicht weniger gewaltigen Selbsteinschätzung, die in dem berühmten Satz gipfelte: "Der Papst ist mein Kaplan, (Kaiser) Maximilian mein Condottiere, Venedig mein Kanzler und Frankreich mein Kurier." Er schmorte nach seinem Sturz in einem französischen Verließ, aus dem ihn erst der Tod erlöste.
http://www.susannealbers.de/A 05 Ein Besuch in Vinci.html




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Direct speech format: \"The Pope (or Alexander) is my chaplain, the Emperor (or Maximilian) my Condottiere (or mercenary), Venice my chamberlain, and the King of France my courier [, who must come and go at my bidding]\"
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Thank you very much for all this information!!!!!!!!!!
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4 +4Pope Alexander was his chaplain, the Emperor Maximilian his Condottiere, Venice his chamberlain etc
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Quote by Ludovica Sforza
Pope Alexander was his chaplain, the Emperor Maximilian his Condottiere, Venice his chamberlain etc


Explanation:
Lodovico Sforza, called 'il Moro,' the Moor, is the most perfect type of the despot of that age, and, as a kind of natural product, almost disarms our moral judgement. Notwithstanding the profound immorality of the means he employed, he used them with perfect ingenuousness; no o ne would probably have been more astonished than himself to learn that for the choice of means as well as of ends a human being is morally.responsible; he would rather have reckoned it as a singular virtue that, so far as possible, he had abstained from too free a use of the punishment of death. He accepted as no more than his due the almost fabulous respect of the Italians for his political genius. In 1486 he boasted that the Pope Alexander was his chaplain, the Emperor Maximilian his Condottiere, Venice his chamberlain, and the King of France his courier, who must come and go at his bidding.

http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/hst/european/Th...

Each of these states was dependent on mercenary troops for their defence. The mercenaries-known as condotterie-were an unruly ill- disciplined lot posing a danger to their masters as well as to the common people among; whom they were billeted
http://www.dailymirror.lk/2002/12/03/opinion/2.html
17 Jahre verbrachte Leonardo in Mailand am Hofe Ludovico Sforzas. Erst die Niederlage des Herzogs nach der französischen Belagerung Mailands (August 1499 bis April 1500) bereitete der innigen Beziehung zwischen dem Künstler und seinem Mäzen ein jähes Ende. Sforza galt als Mann von gewaltigem Kunstverständnis und einer nicht weniger gewaltigen Selbsteinschätzung, die in dem berühmten Satz gipfelte: "Der Papst ist mein Kaplan, (Kaiser) Maximilian mein Condottiere, Venedig mein Kanzler und Frankreich mein Kurier." Er schmorte nach seinem Sturz in einem französischen Verließ, aus dem ihn erst der Tod erlöste.
http://www.susannealbers.de/A 05 Ein Besuch in Vinci.html




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Note added at 51 mins (2005-07-26 15:46:35 GMT)
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Direct speech format: \"The Pope (or Alexander) is my chaplain, the Emperor (or Maximilian) my Condottiere (or mercenary), Venice my chamberlain, and the King of France my courier [, who must come and go at my bidding]\"

Lancashireman
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Thank you very much for all this information!!!!!!!!!!

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