ProZ.com global directory of translation services
 The translation workplace
Ideas
KudoZ home » German to English » History

Bärenstube

English translation: so-called "bear chambers" ("Bärenstuben")


Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs
(or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.
14:24 Oct 26, 2010
German to English translations [PRO]
History / medieval hunting
German term or phrase: Bärenstube
Verbreitet waren die Hetzjagd mit Hunden und die Fangjagd mit Netzen, Gruben und sogenannten Bärenstuben.
I assume it's some kind of a way to trap a bear that was practiced in the Middle Ages, but all the hits I get are names of restaurants.
John Speese
United States
Local time: 21:08
English translation:so-called "bear chambers" ("Bärenstuben")
Explanation:
This is a case where I would consider adding the original expression in brackets as a highly specific technical term. Assuming by context that the room in question is a trap, I have chosen "chamber" instead of "room" to replicate the rather historical tone of "Stube" and to indicate the small size of the space.
Selected response from:

Trude Stegmann
Local time: 02:08
Grading comment
This is the way I decided to phrase it, as it's something that as far as I know never existed in the US and there is no exact term. I did find the other suggestions from our colleagues (e.g., a trophy room), but this I think fits the context.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +1so-called "bear chambers" ("Bärenstuben")
Trude Stegmann
4 -1Memorobelia room for bear hunt (the "bear" room)
Gabriella Bertelmann
3ursus/bear trap
Annie and Rolf Reiser
2bear cabin
Ingrid Stevens
2bear penColin Rowe
Summary of reference entries provided
Bärenfang
sibsab

  

Answers


45 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Memorobelia room for bear hunt (the "bear" room)


Explanation:
could not copy out the text but here is the (long) link to the history / text. In case you are not able to read the old script: talks about particular room in the castle where photos are kept and records of encounters... (some of the pictures were later transferred to other venues) hope this is helpful

books.google.com/books?id=08sLAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA154&lpg=PA154&dq=Die+Jagd+und+Bärenstube+%3F&source=bl&ots=VJlKQuSYxZ&sig=kSF1vnCHzPwnQpwLs5rwKGpE3hc&hl=en&ei=X-3GTPqNJYH0tgPDx_TpDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&sqi=2&ved=0CDkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Die Jagd und Bärenstube %3F&f=false

Gabriella Bertelmann
Local time: 19:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  philgoddard: Have you read the context?
2 hrs
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
so-called "bear chambers" ("Bärenstuben")


Explanation:
This is a case where I would consider adding the original expression in brackets as a highly specific technical term. Assuming by context that the room in question is a trap, I have chosen "chamber" instead of "room" to replicate the rather historical tone of "Stube" and to indicate the small size of the space.

Trude Stegmann
Local time: 02:08
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
This is the way I decided to phrase it, as it's something that as far as I know never existed in the US and there is no exact term. I did find the other suggestions from our colleagues (e.g., a trophy room), but this I think fits the context.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard: I think this would need a sentence of explanation - as sibsab's reference shows, this was an actual building constructed specially for the purpose.
1 hr
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
ursus/bear trap


Explanation:
Die historische Bärenfalle war vermutlich etwas anders konstruiert, aber das Prinzip dürfte gleich sein.


    Reference: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tvzeE-FcbAowiFWJD5kwng
    Reference: http://www.fotosearch.com/UNS018/u11575541/
Annie and Rolf Reiser
Local time: 19:08
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
bear pen


Explanation:
Just a guess really, but this is presumably meant to be something for keeping bears captive or rounding them up, rather than trapping them like a conventional bear pit.


Colin Rowe
Germany
Local time: 03:08
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
bear cabin


Explanation:
another guess, as the meaning has evolved in a similar way as the German "Bärenstube"
the things that are presumably meant are still for sale as live traps and nowadays they look like big barrels on a cart

Ingrid Stevens
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:08
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)




Reference comments


38 mins
Reference: Bärenfang

Reference information:
"Der Bärenfang ist ein spätmittelalterliches Gebäude, in den Bären getrieben und dann gefangen gehalten worden sind."

I couldn't find a translation though

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 40 mins (2010-10-26 15:04:46 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

maybe just "bear trap", but that doesn't convey the idea of the building ("Stube")

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 41 mins (2010-10-26 15:05:45 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/780604


    Reference: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A4renfang_%28Geb%C3%A4ude%...
sibsab
Israel
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)




Return to KudoZ list


Changes made by editors
Oct 26, 2010 - Changes made by Astrid Elke Johnson:
Term askedBaerenstube => Bärenstube


KudoZ™ translation help
The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.



See also: