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Nepper, Schlepper, 'Phisher'

English translation: Hook, line and phisher


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13:45 Jun 5, 2006
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German term or phrase: Nepper, Schlepper, 'Phisher'
This is a sub-title for a section of an article on phishing.
"Nepper, Schlepper - 'Phisher'" to be exact. I assume it is playing on some kind of German phrase or saying, i.e. I get a lot of hits for "Nepper, Schlepper, Bauernfänger" but am still at a complete loss as to what exactly the phrase might be saying. "Nepper" and "Schlepper" appear nowhere else in the text. Can anyone help? Thanks!
Rebecca Holmes
United States
Local time: 08:27
English translation:Hook, line and phisher
Explanation:
A play on 'hook, line, and sinker', which is a common English (US at least) expression that expresses gullibility (the victim side of the con artist relationship) - as in 'he swallowed it (the story) hook, line and sinker'.
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Ken Cox
Local time: 08:27
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Thanks to everyone for all the many wonderful ideas!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +9Hook, line and phisherKen Cox
2 +4fleecing, touting, phishing
Alison Jenner
4 +1(con-artists)
Craig Meulen
3 +1rip-off artists, touts and conmen (or Phisher, in your case)
Natalie Wilcock
3con-artist and internet frauds
Ingeborg Gowans
3Don't have a suggestion but...LittleBalu
2by hook or by crookNancy Arrowsmith


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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Nepper, Schlepper ....
(con-artists)


Explanation:
all three are types of criminal or con-artist

Die Warnung "Nepper, Schlepper, Bauernfänger" wurde als Untertitel mit Eduard Zimmermann in der Fernsehsendung Vorsicht Falle! im ZDF zum geflügelten Wort.


    Reference: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauernf%C3%A4ngerei
Craig Meulen
Germany
Local time: 08:27
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Cetacea: That's where it originated, but maybe in this case, we're dealing with "e-con artists" or "e-confidence tricksters"... ;-)
6 mins
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Nepper, Schlepper ....
Don't have a suggestion but...


Explanation:
for explanation:

"Nepper, Schlepper, Bauernfänger" is a German saying describing a bunch of swindlers and tricksters.

A "Nepper" is somebody who rips other people off.
A "Schlepper" is a tout, i.e. somebody who tries to talk people into buying something (in this context - it can also mean someone who organizes illegal entry into a country).

Hope this helps. :-)

LittleBalu
Germany
Local time: 08:27
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 8
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +4
Nepper, Schlepper ....
fleecing, touting, phishing


Explanation:
I was wondering whether you could try something along the lines of "fleecing, touting, phishing" (kind of an echo of "hunting, shooting, fishing" but with a criminal edge!). Bit of a move away, as it refers to the activities rather than the person carrying them out, but just a though.

Alison Jenner
Switzerland
Local time: 08:27
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Wenjer Leuschel: I like this one.
12 mins
  -> Thanks, Wenjer

agree  Laurel Porter: Actually, I'd prefer the phrase you're attempting to echo: Hunting, shooting... and phishing? Or some such variant. The original is playing on flipping the third element of a common tripartite phrase, and so would this (albeit from a different angle).
29 mins
  -> Thanks, Laurel - I agree with what you said, too.

agree  Craig Meulen: Alice's sounds good, and I also agree with Laurel; if there is no specific reference to Neppers and Schleppers in the text following the subtitle, then you are free to choose another play on words in English.
56 mins
  -> Thanks, Craig.

agree  Trudy Peters: with Laurel
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Nepper, Schlepper ....
rip-off artists, touts and conmen (or Phisher, in your case)


Explanation:
Just a comparison, listing frauds and increasing in intensity, meaning that phishers are the worst of them all.

In a bank, the name of which I can't divulge they had a similar phrase to describe the worst kind of banker. It went:

Loser, w**ker (the comparative), investment banker (the superlative). I offer this merely as an explanation of what this Nepper, Schlepper, Phisher is trying to convey. It's not my personal opinion, I hasten to add.
;-))

Natalie Wilcock
Local time: 08:27
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 8

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agree  archtrans: like it
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Nepper, Schlepper ....
con-artist and internet frauds


Explanation:
fraud could cover "Nepper Schlepper" and phishing (unless you want to keep the term) could be rendered as "ionternet frauds ) (wikipedia has a whole artticle on "phjishing", described as 'social engineering' etc. I don't know whether this would fit your context

Ingeborg Gowans
Canada
Local time: 03:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 27
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59 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
Nepper, Schlepper ....
by hook or by crook


Explanation:
This is turns things aroung a bit, which you may not like, but phishers do get waht they want by hook or by crook, those crooks...

Nancy Arrowsmith
Local time: 00:27
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +9
Nepper, Schlepper ....
Hook, line and phisher


Explanation:
A play on 'hook, line, and sinker', which is a common English (US at least) expression that expresses gullibility (the victim side of the con artist relationship) - as in 'he swallowed it (the story) hook, line and sinker'.

Ken Cox
Local time: 08:27
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 65
Grading comment
Thanks to everyone for all the many wonderful ideas!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  yyyzzz: Good suggestion for an attention-grabbing headline (also works for UK)
36 mins

agree  Andras Malatinszky
45 mins

agree  Cetacea: Very nice!
1 hr

agree  Diana Loos: Eye-catching, clever, consistent (using the fishing analogy all through) - a splendid idea!
1 hr

agree  Frosty
1 hr

agree  Rachel Ward: Nice!
5 hrs

agree  Textklick: Inspired! I think you've netted it!
7 hrs

agree  Nancy Arrowsmith: you've got me hooked
12 hrs

agree  Mario Marcolin
1 day2 hrs
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Changes made by editors
Jun 5, 2006 - Changes made by Marcus Malabad:
Term askedNepper, Schlepper, Bauernfänger => Nepper, Schlepper, \'Phisher\'
Jun 5, 2006 - Changes made by Marcus Malabad:
Term askedNepper, Schlepper .... => Nepper, Schlepper, Bauernfänger


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