geartete Schäden

English translation: of any kind, any, whatsoever

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German term or phrase:	wie (auch) immer geartet
English translation:	of any kind, any, whatsoever
Entered by:	LegalTrans D

14:40 Apr 7, 2008

German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / limitation of liability

German term or phrase: geartete Schäden

I have this term in the limitation of liability section of a contract (Sollte XYZ sonstige, wie auch immer geartete Schäden erleiden, übernimmt der Veranstalter keinerlei Haftung). I found these phrase in other on-line contracts, e.g. http://www.m-h-l.net/html/agb.html, but can't find a translation. Does it mean damages of the same nature?

I'd be grateful for any insights.

Ann Marie Ackermann, JD KudoZ activity Questions: 76 (none open) (1 closed without grading) Answers: 7
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of any kind, any

Explanation:
"wie immer geartet" = of any kind

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LegalTrans D
Türkiye

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of any kind, any

LegalTrans D

4 +1

whatsoever

Cetacea

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3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

of any kind, any

Explanation:
"wie immer geartet" = of any kind

LegalTrans D
Türkiye
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in category: 40

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10 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

wie auch immer geartet whatsoever

Explanation:
any other damages whatsoever

Reference: http://www.westcoastlabs.com/terms/

Cetacea
Switzerland
Local time: 22:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in category: 12

Notes to answerer

Asker: I agree with Kim.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Kim Metzger: Loss or damage. Damages in the plural has an entirely different meaning: it is the compensation paid to the successful plaintiff for injury to or interference with their rights./ I still think the distinction is worth preserving.

1 min

-> "damages" may have the meaning you mention, but it doesn't need to; e.g. http://tinyurl.com/3tpkb8 //Fair enough, but how about commenting on my choice for the term the asker is actually looking for? That's the one I see most often anyway.

neutral

Steffen Walter: I concur with Kim. The use of "damages" to refer to damage or loss is probably just perpetuated sloppy drafting. / Yes, indeed - sloppiness does not stop in front of the entrance of a law firm :-) (first-hand evidence available upon request :))

1 hr

-> "perpetuated sloppy drafting" by lawyers? Okay, I'll let them know...//O no, not all of them, I could provide my fair share of evidence of that myself. :-) Still, there are too many instances out there for them to be all due to sloppiness.

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