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Klägerin

English translation: plaintiff


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German term or phrase:Klägerin
English translation:plaintiff
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15:45 Jul 30, 2009
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Law/Patents - Law: Patents, Trademarks, Copyright / Klageerwiderung
German term or phrase: Klägerin
"Die Klägerin macht nicht geltend, selbst Erfinderin zu sein, sondern sie leitet ihre Rechte ab. Meine Frage bezieht sich auf das Personalpronomen. Klägerin ist ein Firma, wie ist "sie" zu übersetzen: the plaintiff / she / it / they?
patrans
Local time: 12:32
plaintiff
Explanation:
How I would translate it. A company is most likely a "corporate person"

I would probably use "the plaintiff" instead of he/she/it throughout.
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jccantrell
Local time: 03:32
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3 +9plaintiff
jccantrell
4 +6it
LegalTrans D


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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +9
plaintiff


Explanation:
How I would translate it. A company is most likely a "corporate person"

I would probably use "the plaintiff" instead of he/she/it throughout.

jccantrell
Local time: 03:32
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Venkatesh Sundaram
1 min
agree  Penny Hewson: In that sentence you could avoid the problem by just saying "but" and then the verb
7 mins
neutral  philgoddard: This is not really a vocabulary question, as the asker already knows the translation of Klägerin. I think the answer to their question is "it" - you can't go on constantly repeating "the plaintiff".
8 mins
agree  Rosa Paredes: Bestimmt! @philgoddard, In English, repetitions are not only allowed, but common usage in this type of text.
1 hr
agree  chamberi86: You can use "the Plaintiff" repeatedly as is often done in American legal documents. Ex. ABC Corporation ("Plaintiff") - Plaintiff would be used to refer to ABC Corp. for remainder of document
6 hrs
agree  milinad
16 hrs
agree  EdithK
20 hrs
agree  Andrew Morgan
1 day2 hrs
agree  Alexander Weichelt
1 day2 hrs
agree  Mustafa Er (BSc MA): -
2 days14 hrs
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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
it


Explanation:
In englischsprachigen Texten sind klagende juristische Personen fast immer "it" (mir ist keine Ausnahme bekannt). Nur wenn es sich ausdrücklich um natürliche Personen handelt, kommen die Personalpronomina "he" oder "she" zur Anwendung.

LegalTrans D
Local time: 13:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  sibsab
2 mins
  -> Danke, sibsab
agree  Trudy Peters
41 mins
  -> Danke, Trudy
agree  Alison MacG: Yes, given that the plaintiff is a company.
46 mins
  -> Thank you, Alison. As I said, "juristische Personen"
agree  Nils Andersson: Except, especially if the target text is British English, a "legal person" such as a corporation can be referred to as "they". Br: ICL are working on... Am:IBM is working on... And, no a legal person is NEVER a "he" or "she".
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Nils.
disagree  jccantrell: Here is an example where 'plaintiff' is used several times: http://www.verdictreporter.com/pdf/03_01_24_contract.pdf It is time to update your 'Ausnahme' file. --XX-- 'sie' to 'it' does not make good English. Verdict NEVER used 'it' here.
2 hrs
  -> I'm afraid I don't get what you are driving at, jccantrell. Klägerin is of course plaintiff but the question was how to translate "sie"--that could be either "it" or "plaintiff"
agree  Birgit Gläser: @jcc: I rather see your example as proof for "it". The verdict is a lot of he said/she said, so plaintiff/defendant is used abundantly, but when the same party is mentioned twice in one sentence, they use "it", although in here in relation to defendant
5 hrs
  -> Danke, Birgit
agree  Astrid Elke Johnson: Ganz genau.
13 hrs
  -> Danke, Astrid
agree  Steffen Walter
16 hrs
neutral  EdithK: with jccantrell
20 hrs
neutral  Spud Murphy: If the plaintiff is seen as a company and one does not wish to repeat the same word all the time then one would use "they" for "sie", it would refer to an object, not to a body incorporating people, members etc. Can a company sue someone ? or people?
23 hrs
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