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English translation: Third party defendant


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German term or phrase:Streitverkündete
English translation:Third party defendant
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19:52 Nov 19, 2009
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German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
German term or phrase: Streitverkündete
Mit Schriftsatz xx hat der Beklagte Herrn Hans Schmidt den Streit verkündet mit der Aufforderung, dem Rechtsstreit auf Seiten des Beklagten beizutreten. Mit Schriftsatz xx is **der Streitverkündete** auf Seiten des Beklagten beigetreten.

So far I've only found "person receiving the third-party notice" but I'm hoping there's a much shorter version!
Tracy Byrne
Spain
Local time: 09:20
Third party defendant
Explanation:
In all the legal documents that I ever translated, the term "third party defendant" was used at all times.
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Carmen Berelson
United States
Local time: 02:20
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1Third party defendantCarmen Berelson
4third party
Astrid Elke Johnson
3 +1the notified third party
Erika Nagy, Esq.
Summary of reference entries provided
KudoZ glossary
Kim Metzger

  

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Third party defendant


Explanation:
In all the legal documents that I ever translated, the term "third party defendant" was used at all times.

Carmen Berelson
United States
Local time: 02:20
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Carmen. This certainly seems to be best translation.


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agree  Kim Metzger: http://deu.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_german/law_general/2056...
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the notified third party


Explanation:
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I completely agree with Carmen's translation,i.e., that this is a third party defendant. However, since the sentence goes on to say that the third party is joined as a defendant, it would be redundant to say that the third party defendant will be joined as a defendant. Just my opinion... Hope it helps.

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You are welcome. We are all here to help each other out. I'm sure you'll find the phrase that works best. Good luck!!!

Erika Nagy, Esq.
Local time: 03:20
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in HungarianHungarian
PRO pts in category: 10
Notes to answerer
Asker: thanks, Erika. It really helps to have several people suggest (more or less) the same translation - makes me feel much more confident! As you say, depends on the rest of the sentence...


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agree  Kim Metzger
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third party


Explanation:
"Party notified of the possibility of intervention" is a bit too much of a mouthful. However, on checking what I used in a case of this kind last year, where this term came up a lot, I used this long explanation on the first occasion and thereafter simply wrote "third party", which can also be capitalised. In certain circumstances, I suppose "third party intervener" might fit, but actually this term refers - at least initially - simply to parties who are invited to intervene.

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I would translate the excerpt given above as follows:

With brief dated xxxx, the Defendant Mr. XXXX has notified the dispute, with the request to intervene in the proceedings on behalf of the Defendant. (Alternatively, more precisely "..... with the request that the party notified intervene in the proceedings on behalf of the Defendant.")

With brief dated xxxx, the third party notified of the possibility of intervention intervened (alternatively: "joined in the proceedings") on behalf of the Defendant."

Then, the next time the Streitverkündete is mentioned, perhaps "the said third party".

It would be better, normally, to remove any personal names before posting a question.

Astrid Elke Johnson
Germany
Local time: 09:20
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 90
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Astrid. It certainly seems that it should be either third party defendant or third party or even notified third party, depending on the rest of the sentence.

Asker: Thanks again and, by the way, I changed the name to a ficticious one. Can't be too careful!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Erika Nagy, Esq.: these third party actions are referred to, among other types, as impleader or interpleader. Neither of the two involve an invitation to intervene, one forces another defendant to join the action, the other involves a plaintiff who shows up voluntarily
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  -> I translated proceedings last year which involved multiple "Streitverkündeten", and in that case at least it did mean a party notified of having the opportunity to intervene.

neutral  Kim Metzger: Schriftsatz is not "brief" in UK English. See Tom Thumb's comment: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/law_general/2066...
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Reference: KudoZ glossary

Reference information:
'third party defendant' or 'person served with a third party notice'

http://forum.dict.cc/?pagenum=5941

third party defendant
http://deu.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_german/law_general/2056...



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Impleader - A procedure in which one party brings a third party into a lawsuit. Usually a defendant initiates the proceeding to show that the third party is liable to the plaintiff. (Compare: interpleader)

http://www.nolo.com/dictionary/impleader-term.html

Intervention
It is an act or procedure of a third party to join the ongoing lawsuit by the permission of the judge who gives such allowance on the basis of the facts provided which indicates that this third party has the same interest as the first ...

http://en.mimi.hu/law/intervention.html

Kim Metzger
Mexico
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks a lot - good to know it's a usual term in English - even if it sounds a bit clumsy!

Asker: Thanks again for the reference. However, in this case I'm not sure if it's the situation, as the defendant is a company and the "Streitverkündete" is a manager from that company, representing it. Perhaps that's what the definition of "impleader" covers, but I'm not 100% convinced.

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