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11:00 Jan 10, 2012

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German to English translations [Non-PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Pass, Ausweis

German term or phrase: Kinder bis zur Vollendung des 10. Lebensjahres

Mir liegt zur Übersetzung ein "Notreiseausweis" vor. Ausgestellt in Deutschland.

Das Dokument ist in Deutsch, Englisch, Französisch verfasst (außerdem gibt es handschriftliche Eintragungen).

Die englische (und französische) Übersetzung der o.g. Wortgruppe "Mitreisende Kinder bis zur Vollendung des 10. Lebensjahres" ist im Englischen mit "Children accompanying the holder" und im Französischen mit "Enfants accompagnan le titulaire." übersetzt.

Das Problem ist, dass die Übersetzung ins Englische zur Vorlage bei einer afrikanischen Botschaft in Europa beglaubigt werden muss.

Muss in der beeidigten Übersetzung im Englischen "bis zur Vollendung des 10. Lebensjahres" übersetzt werden? Wenn ja, wie? Oder sollte man die unvollständige Übersetzung der deutschen Behörden übernehmen?

Tausend Dank!

bwprius KudoZ activity Questions: 57 (none open) (5 closed without grading) Answers: 500
Local time: 20:55

Summary of answers provided

4 +8

children under the age of 10

Birgit Gläser

4 +1

children up to their tenth birthday

David Wright

Children up to the age of ten.

Oliver Toogood

Discussion entries: 4

Answers

3 mins confidence:

Children up to the age of ten.

Explanation:
;

Oliver Toogood
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

David Wright: Exactly. However, no idea about the rest of the problem! **On reflection: It should be children under the age of ten.

0 min

-> Thanks

agree

AllegroTrans

16 mins

-> Thanks

disagree

Andrew Swift: The German is more precise. Not clear from your formulation whether this includes or excludes ten-year-olds. // If you really think that the tenth year of life ends on the eleventh birthday, I must change neutral to disagree.

19 mins

-> No need to re-read the German. It says up to (and including) completion of the 10th year of its life.Hence the day of the child's 11th birthday sees the child's exclusion from the qualification.

neutral

writeaway: with Andrew for once. actually the English reads as though 10 year olds are excluded. which ain't what the German says

25 mins

-> The "and including" part isn't necessary in English.See above and below.

neutral

trsk2000: it is possible that the English translation here may be misconstrued/misinterpreted

53 mins

-> No- in English "up to the age of 10" means until the day of its 11th birthday.

disagree

Cilian O'Tuama: but eligibility ends on the child's 10th birthday, not 11th.

4 hrs

neutral

orla: the German does not mean up to the 11th bday - 10 year olds are excluded which is odd but anyway...

5 hrs

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +8

children under the age of 10

Explanation:
Das 10. Lebensjahr ist vor dem 10. Geburtstag....

Birgit Gläser
Germany
Local time: 21:55
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in category: 17

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

children up to their tenth birthday

Explanation:
to be absolutely clear!

David Wright
Austria
Local time: 21:55
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 255

Voters for reclassification
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PRO / non-PRO

PRO (3): Andrew Swift, Cilian O'Tuama, Kim Metzger
Non-PRO (3): AllegroTrans, trsk2000, philgoddard

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