Satz (im Gesetz)

English translation: section 321 (1) sentence 3 of the HGB

01:49 Apr 2, 2002
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents
German term or phrase: Satz (im Gesetz)
§ 321 Abs. 1 Satz 3 HGB

Article 321, Paragraph 1, ???3 of the HGB (German Commercial Code)

I have seen differing translations of these 3 terms (§, Abs., Satz) and would appreciate advice from colleagues with legal expertise as to whether there are "official" or "accepted" translations for them?

Thanks in advance.
Beth Kantus
United States
Local time: 15:19
English translation:section 321 (1) sentence 3 of the HGB
Explanation:
is my standard way of dealing with §, Absatz and Satz respectively.

My two cents...

Alison
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Alison Schwitzgebel
France
Local time: 21:19
Grading comment
I especially like this "streamlined" format, but appreciate everyone's suggestions, and especially the helpful explanations. Thanks, ya'll!

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5 +2My 2 cents
Werner George Patels, M.A., C.Tran.(ATIO) (X)
4 +2See explanation
Kim Metzger
4 +2section 321 (1) sentence 3 of the HGB
Alison Schwitzgebel
5Article, paragraph and sentence
GATI (X)
5Section 321 (1) (3) HGB
Dr. Fred Thomson


  

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Article, paragraph and sentence


Explanation:
Although § represents article in English, I leave the symbol in the text(in agreement with most attorneys), with a notation that it represents article. The § symbol facilitates it for the recipient to follow the original and respond accordingly.
Paragraph in U.S. legal texts is usually written as Para ...

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See explanation


Explanation:
I think you'll find considerable disagreement on this subject. But this is what I've been using:
§ = section (article)
Absatz = paragraph
Ziffer = item (figure)(subsection)
Teilziffer = sub-item








Kim Metzger
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agree  gangels (X)
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agree  Elvira Stoianov
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Section 321 (1) (3) HGB


Explanation:
This is one way to get the job done. You can keep the symbol for section or write it out, but then you don't write in paragraph nor sentence (or sub-paragraph).
I use the Unifrom System of Citation that most lawyers across the US use. The above approach is that shown on page 18 (lawyers say "at p. 18).


Dr. Fred Thomson
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Werner George Patels, M.A., C.Tran.(ATIO) (X): Not quite: "(3)" would be interpreted to mean "subparagraph" in your example; sometimes, these may coincide, but this is not necessarily the case.
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My 2 cents


Explanation:
Paragraph:

"Section" - this is to be used in most legal contexts. "Article" is usually reserved for legal documents of an international nature such as treaties or agreements of international organizations (e.g., UN).

Absatz:

"Paragraph" - often shortened to "para." or "para" (without punctuation)

Satz:

"Sentence"

Werner George Patels, M.A., C.Tran.(ATIO) (X)
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Beate Lutzebaeck: This (in addition to the usage of brackets which may cause confusion) is the accepted citation system in Commonwealth countries. Beth: § may or may not be understood by US lawyers, it's unknown under the British system. Ziffer = No.
3 hrs
  -> Thank you

neutral  Rod Darby (X): I use section and sentence, but find "sub-section" better for "Absatz": "paragraph" is too close to the German name for that symbol my editor doesn't want me to type.
4 hrs
  -> Interesting!

agree  Regina Landeck: Although sometimes i have been asked to use "clause" for "sentence".
11 hrs
  -> Thank you, Regina
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section 321 (1) sentence 3 of the HGB


Explanation:
is my standard way of dealing with §, Absatz and Satz respectively.

My two cents...

Alison

Alison Schwitzgebel
France
Local time: 21:19
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
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I especially like this "streamlined" format, but appreciate everyone's suggestions, and especially the helpful explanations. Thanks, ya'll!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rod Darby (X): absolute agreement
47 mins

agree  Barbara Schulten, MSc (OXON), DPSI
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