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English translation: see below

02:01 Jul 14, 2000
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents
German term or phrase: see below
Any help with the following would be greatly appreciated. It's from a legal opinion.

Eine Amtspflichtverletzung der Firma X macht im Außenverhältnis nicht die X haftbar, sondern Firma Y.

Also 'Tatbestand' can be translated as 'the facts of the case' or just 'the facts' so how do you translate 'Haftungstatbestand'?

Thanks.
Frank
English translation:see below
Explanation:
To start with Haftungstatbestand, I would translate it as actual liability or de facto liability.
Now for the sentence, I would put:
With respect to third party dealings, not company X, but company Y is liable for a neglect of duty by company X.
Hope this helps.
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Dr. Sahib Bleher
Local time: 01:23
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Thanks very much - I actually translated the sentence more or less the same. I just need reassurance.

Thanks to all the others too - all the replies were very helpful.
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Explanation:
To start with Haftungstatbestand, I would translate it as actual liability or de facto liability.
Now for the sentence, I would put:
With respect to third party dealings, not company X, but company Y is liable for a neglect of duty by company X.
Hope this helps.


Dr. Sahib Bleher
Local time: 01:23
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in pair: 219
Grading comment
Thanks very much - I actually translated the sentence more or less the same. I just need reassurance.

Thanks to all the others too - all the replies were very helpful.
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4 hrs
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Explanation:
"In terms of relationships to third parties, a breach of official duty does not render X liable, but Y."

Based on Romain's definition that "Tatbestand" can also be rendered "elements of an offense," maybe something like "particulars of the liability" or "particulars of so-and-so's liability" would work.

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4 hrs
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Explanation:
"In terms of relationships to third parties, a breach of official duty ON THE PART OF X does not render X liable, but Y."

Sorry about the omission.

Cami Townsend (X)
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Explanation:
Haftungstatbestand means the liability situation, not the liability itself. E.g.: "The liability situation is that the failure of company X to meet its official obligations does not render X liable to third parties, but rather Y." The URL below explains why this can be.


    Reference: http://ifa-verlag.de/QUALIFIZ/WEITERBI/FORTBILD/AEVO/DOZENTE...
Nancy Schmeing
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Local time: 20:23
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