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German term or phrase:	30er Kabel
English translation:	30 mm cable (cross sectional area)
Entered by:	Valentín Hernández Lima

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11:37am Dec 11, 2004

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German term or phrase: 30er Kabel

Dear friends,

I have been translating a document in which there are several instances of "30er Kabel" and "30er Anschluss". Could any of you tell me what "30er" refers to.

A sample phrase follows:

Das 30er Kabel verläuft von dort entlang der Fahrzeugunterseite nach hinten zu einen Wartungsfach und ist dort an einen Trennschalter angeschlossen.

Thank you very much for your help.

Valentín Hernández Lima

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30 mm cable (cross sectional area)

Explanation:
Also a complete guess but I feel 30er is more likely to refer to the cable thickness (ie cross sectional area) than the no. of wires within it. This would be about right for a standard battery connection in a car or even a heavier vehicle. The cable would be around 6-7 mm thick. An isolation switch would be praczical for maintenance as the first thing to be done with any car repair is to isolate the battery. How do you isolate a 30 wire cable with a single switch? Or why would that even be necessary when you can cut the power with a single battery cable switch.

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Gareth McMillan
Germany

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Thank you so much to every one of you.
At least in this case, it refers to the cross sectional area of the cable.

For instance:

Betreff: Dringend! 35er Kabel verhüngen

wir haben ein etwas größeres Problem. Haben ein schönes 35 mm² Stromkabel durchs Auto gezogen und nun will das partout nicht in die Anschlüsse der Xetec 4G600 rein. Es ist einfach zu dick.

Another example:

Also theoretisch mußt du bei jeder Querschnittsverkleinerung neu absichern. So hätten das die DIN gerne. Aber letztendlich gibt die DIN ja nur Empfehlungen heraus. Die Sicherungen im Kabel sind dazu da das Kabel vor einem Kurzschluß zu schützen, bzw. vor den Folgen eines solchen. Wenn du also mit 50mm² an den Kondi gehst und von drt aus mit 35mm² weiter verkabelst muß eigentlich nur sichergestellt sein, daß die Sicherung vorne an der Batterie sicher fliegt, wenn entweder das 50er oder das 35er Kabel an Masse kommt.
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5 +1

cable 30 / terminal 30

dkurtze

1 +3

possible explanation

Nathan Hanika

30 mm cable (cross sectional area)

Gareth McMillan

30-wire-cable

Hermann

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11 mins confidence:

30-wire-cable

Explanation:
Hallo Valentin

Neuer Kurzhaar-Look?

30-pin-connection

Hermann
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
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German
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peer agreement (net): +3

possible explanation

Explanation:
Volkswagens have a 'Klemme 30', which is either a permanent +12V or +12V after switching the ignition on (can't remember). The '30er Kabel' could refer to the cable that is connected to the Klemme 30.
This is a total guess, though, and I can't back this up other than through practical experience many years ago when I had a Volkswagen.
I may be barking up the wrong tree, but perhaps this could be a starting point for further research if it fits into your context.

Nathan Hanika
United Kingdom
Works in field

4 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

cable 30 / terminal 30

Explanation:
In der Kfz-Elektrik kommt 30 direkt von der +-Klemme, ist also ungeschaltet. 15 z.B. ist plus geschaltet vom Zündschalter, d.h. sobald die Zündung eingeschaltet wird, haben die 15er Klemmen Spannung. Die 30er Klemmen oder Kabel haben dagegen immer Spannung, wenn eine Batterie eingebaut ist.

dkurtze
Canada
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English
PRO pts in category: 8

9 hrs confidence:

30 mm cable (cross sectional area)

Explanation:
Also a complete guess but I feel 30er is more likely to refer to the cable thickness (ie cross sectional area) than the no. of wires within it. This would be about right for a standard battery connection in a car or even a heavier vehicle. The cable would be around 6-7 mm thick. An isolation switch would be praczical for maintenance as the first thing to be done with any car repair is to isolate the battery. How do you isolate a 30 wire cable with a single switch? Or why would that even be necessary when you can cut the power with a single battery cable switch.

Gareth McMillan
Germany
Specializes in field
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English
PRO pts in category: 42

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neutral

Ken Cox: Maybe, but see the ref cited above: 'In der... Anleitung steht beschrieben, das zum Anschluß der Endstufe ein rotes 30er Kabel im Sicherungskasten gesucht werden soll und dass dan das Kabel des Verstärkers damit verbunden wird.'

11 mins

-> If that's about a hi fi amplifier (Verstärker) cable, then I'm even more convinced it's a single heavy power cable. These amplifiers are usually powered from the battery with a single thick red cable.// Still anyone's guess,tho.

neutral

Nathan Hanika: Maybe automotive cable sizes are different, but 30mm is not an industry standard size. Either 25mm or 35mm. Also, I can't imagine they would run a cable of that size all the way along the vehicle to the back just to switch it. I do mean csa, not diameter.

14 hrs

-> 30 mm is NOT the diameter, but the cross section which as I said would give a diameter of around 6-7 mm- perfectly normal for car battery or hi fi amplifier. You don't need to imagine it, go and have a look at one and you can actually see it.

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German: 30er Kabel

English translation: 30 mm cable (cross sectional area)