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Bezugsgröße

English translation: reference value / reference variable

20:27 Nov 6, 2009

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German term or phrase: Bezugsgröße

A doctor is talking about how many patients he saw last month who had mild cognitive impairment and says:

"Wegen dieser bloeden Bezugsgroesse schaetze Ich so von 15 bis 20 ungefaehr."

What is this Bezugsgroesse in English? So far I have come up with it being a reference figure for social legislation. Anyone?

The audio file may be heard at the following link, male voice at 2 min 40 sec.

http://65.55.155.121/att/GetAttachment.aspx?file=bd9ffc58-61...

hollycrichton KudoZ activity Questions: 46 (2 open) (1 without valid answers) (4 closed without grading) Answers: 0 United States
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English translation:reference value / reference variable

Explanation:
Because of this misleading ***reference value / reference variable***, I reckon roughly 15 to 20 (patients with mild cognitive impairment)

sources:

***Bezugsgrösse > Reference variable / reference value***15 Apr 2009 ... (KudoZ) German to English translation of ***Bezugsgrösse: Reference variable / reference value*** [Finance (general) (Bus/Financial)].
www.proz.com/kudoz/...to.../3196037-bezugsgr��sse.html -

Bezugsgröße : Dictionary / Wörterbuch (BEOLINGUS, TU Chemnitz) - ***Bezugsgröße : German - English translations and synonyms (BEOLINGUS Online dictionary, TU Chemnitz) ... Bezugsgröße {f}, reference value*** ...
dict.tu-chemnitz.de/deutsch.../Bezugsgr%F6%DFe.html -

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Note added at 27 mins (2009-11-06 20:55:30 GMT)
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Because of this absurd / misleading ***reference value / reference variable***, I reckon roughly 15 to 20 (patients with mild cognitive impairment)

Selected response from:

andres-larsen
Venezuela
Local time: 07:30

Grading comment

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Summary of answers provided

1 +5

reference value / reference variable

andres-larsen

reference parameter

makhno

cut-off value

MMUlr

base, reference quantity

Mustafa Er (BSc MA)

Summary of reference entries provided

Mustafa Er (BSc MA)

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

15 mins confidence:

Bezugsgroesse base, reference quantity

Explanation:
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Mustafa Er (BSc MA)
Turkey
Local time: 14:00
Native speaker of:

Turkish,

English

26 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

Bezugsgroesse

reference value / reference variable

andres-larsen
Venezuela
Local time: 07:30
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 12

Grading comment

Thank you.

2 hrs confidence:

Bezugsgroesse reference parameter

Explanation:
reference parameter

Reference: http://books.google.com.ua/books?id=9bLZqiuJIREC&pg=RA1-PA42...
Reference: http://www.otalib.fi/cgi-bin/thw/trip/?%24%7BBASE%7D=baltic&...

makhno
Ukraine
Local time: 14:00
Native speaker of:

Russian,

Ukrainian

11 hrs confidence:

Bezugsgroesse cut-off value

Explanation:
In this special context, when it's about a score that can help differentiate patients with mild cognitive impairment to 'normal' people, then also *cut-off value* might work.

See for ref.: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2426687/pdf/1471...
(find: -> cut-off values)

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Note added at 1 day13 hrs (2009-11-08 09:52:21 GMT)
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Forget about my translation, it's about a different sort of Größe in this context. (see Reference posting by Mustafa)

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Note added at 1 day14 hrs (2009-11-08 10:58:42 GMT)
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Reference posting is not accessable right now, so I post some refs. here:

First, a text explaining "Bezugsgröße" (see page 5):
www.medi-deutschland.de/datei.php?id=1703
(-> salary of the physician in the same quarter of the preceding year)

A second German article:
http://www.badische-zeitung.de/kreis-loerrach/die-honorarord...
(find: -> – zumal die Bezugsgröße die Punktwerte des Vorjahres sind."

Here a page from the KBV (Kassenärztliche Bundesvereinigung) dictionary (heath care terminology):
http://www.kbv.de/service/wortwahl.asp?lang=de&range=b

They use *reference figure* as the first term mentioned.

After having done some more research around health care, physicians, "managed care" etc., I found several relevant sources mentioning "reference figure" in the given context.

My second choice - if I would have one more choice for an English translation of Bezugsgröße - is:

-> reference figure

MMUlr
Germany
Local time: 13:00
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in category: 122

Reference comments

12 mins peer agreement (net): +1

Reference

Reference information:
Bezugsgröße
Die Bezugsgröße ist gem. § 18 Viertes Buch Sozialgesetzbuch (SGB IV) eine dynamische Rechengröße, die in Deutschland im System der gesetzlichen Sozialversicherung verwendet wird. Sie ist eine wichtige Zahl im deutschen Sozialrecht, von der viele andere Beträge des Sozialrechts linear abhängen. Sie entspricht dem Durchschnittsentgelt des vorvergangenen Kalenderjahres, aufgerundet auf den nächsten durch 420 teilbaren Betrag (d. h. ohne Rest teilbar durch
12 Monate/Jahr
30 Tage/Monat
7 Tage/Woche
52,5 Wochen/Jahr).

Mustafa Er (BSc MA)
Turkey
Native speaker of:

Turkish,

English