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Gemeinsam sind diesen Substanzen

English translation: common to these substances are [or: these substances have the following in common]


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German term or phrase:Gemeinsam sind diesen Substanzen
English translation:common to these substances are [or: these substances have the following in common]
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17:23 Sep 14, 2011
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Medical - Medical: Pharmaceuticals / pain management
German term or phrase: Gemeinsam sind diesen Substanzen
Here is the entire sentence which appears in a medical journal about drugs used in pain management:
Gemeinsam sind diesen Substanzen die Hemmung der Cyclooxygenasen der Prostaglandinsynthese, aber auch verschiedene organtoxische Effekte.

Is part of the verb missing here in this sentence? Or am I missing something about how 'diesen Substanzen' should be translated?
Would a valid translation be:
Both the inhibition of cyclooxygenases associated with prostaglandin synthesis but also various organotoxic effects are 'attributable' to these substances.
Thanks in advance!
Heart
Local time: 03:49
common to these substances are [or: these substances have the following in common]
Explanation:
The German sentence is fine.

Here's a similar use of the dative case with 'gemeinsam':
ihnen ist vieles gemeinsam they have a great deal in common
http://dictionary.reverso.net/german-english/gemeinsam



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4 +11common to these substances are [or: these substances have the following in common]casper
4 -2Together, these substances are/could be responsible
Rosa Paredes


  

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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
Together, these substances are/could be responsible


Explanation:
IMO, your interpretation is right, but more context is needed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclooxygenase - CachedCyclooxygenase-2 (Prostaglandin Synthase-2) in complex with a COX-2 ... The resulting inhibition of prostaglandin and thromboxane synthesis has the effect of ... associated with COX-2 inhibitors, with a decreased risk of peptic ulceration. ...
Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, such as aspirin and ibuprofen, exert their ... The resulting inhibition of prostaglandin and thromboxane synthesis has the effect of ... Some NSAIDs are also acidic which may cause additional damage to the ... associated with COX-2 inhibitors, with a decreased risk of peptic ulceration. ...
hyper.ahajournals.org/content/29/1/274.fullby S Taddei - 1997 - Cited by 147 - Related articles
To evaluate whether cyclooxygenase constrictor substances can impair nitric ... the synthesis of cyclooxygenase-dependent EDCF.13 Thus taken together these ... with the L-arginine pathway, causing NO destruction.10,15 Thus the present ...

Rosa Paredes
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  sibsab: "etwas gemeinsam haben" is not the same as "together"//Even if you change the perspective, you should translate the meaning correctly.
2 mins
  -> Sure if you whant to go literal
neutral  Dr. Johanna Schmitt: with sibsab: "etwas gemeinsam haben" means "to have something in common".
6 mins
  -> I'm saying the perspective should be turned around to express the interpretation given bythe asker
disagree  Cilian O'Tuama: it's "diesen", not "diese"
15 hrs
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +11
gemeinsam sind diesen Substanzen
common to these substances are [or: these substances have the following in common]


Explanation:
The German sentence is fine.

Here's a similar use of the dative case with 'gemeinsam':
ihnen ist vieles gemeinsam they have a great deal in common
http://dictionary.reverso.net/german-english/gemeinsam





casper
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PRO pts in category: 86
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  sibsab: wollte ich auch gerade vorschlagen
0 min
  -> Schönen Dank, sibsab
agree  Dr. Johanna Schmitt: Yes, the German sentence is correct and is about common features of these substances.
2 mins
  -> Danke, Dr Schmitt
agree  Carl Stoll
16 mins
  -> Thanks, Carl
agree  Ellen Kraus
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Ellen
agree  jccantrell: How I see it.
1 hr
  -> Thank you, jccantrell
agree  Ingo Dierkschnieder
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Ingo
agree  lirka: the German sentence seems entirely OK to me, too ( surprise, surprise...:)
2 hrs
  -> A pleasant surprise, I hope? Thanks, lirka
agree  Steffen Walter
2 hrs
  -> Thanks you, Steffen
agree  Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
11 hrs
  -> Thanks, Harald
agree  Gillian Scheibelein: I'd streamline it: Both substances inhibit......and also have other.....
14 hrs
  -> Yes, Gillian, thank you. This is indeed one of those many instances where the English structure needs to break away from the sentence structure of the source language.
agree  Ilse Schwender
1 day8 hrs
  -> Thanks, hollyhobbit
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Changes made by editors
Sep 21, 2011 - Changes made by casper:
Created KOG entryKudoZ term => KOG term
Sep 14, 2011 - Changes made by Steffen Walter:
Field (specific)Medical (general) => Medical: Pharmaceuticals


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