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German term or phrase:F, p (variance analysis)
English translation:F, p (variance analysis)
Entered by: Astrid Elke Witte
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23:26 May 29, 2002
German to English translations [PRO]
Medical / Drug testing
German term or phrase: F, p
I am translating an information sheet about an investigation into a new drug. Under the section "Results", the observations made when testing the drug on people are described, then in brackets it says "(Varianzanalyse, Mittelwerte, statistischer Test angeben, F, p)".

Variation analysis, mean values, statistical test indication,........???
Astrid Elke Witte
Germany
Local time: 18:17
F, p
Explanation:
F,p are apparently values in variance analysis equations. These symbols can be used in either language, German or English, and as such do not need to be translated.
As to what they mean, casual Web searches will show some not so simple examples of how they are defined in context(s). But – speaking for myself as a *** NON!!!*** -mathematician – that doesn’t necessarily mean a non-math reader like me will understand what they really mean; e.g.:

Google:
Searched the web for Varianzanalyse, Mittelwerte statistischer OR Test OR angeben OR Wert OR Werte " F, p". Results 1 - 10 of about 83. Search took 0.20 seconds.

[PDF] (7.41) .... AcAcAcAcD = + + + =
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... post hoc) Tests Scheffé- Test ... gilt: wobei und F (p ... 1;Np;1- ) ist der kritische Wert ... von
H1 durch die Varianzanalyse ... einem zweiten Schritt die Mittelwerte ...
visor.unibe.ch/WS02/statistik2/Einzelvergleiche.pdf - Similar pages

KMSS III: Multiple und Multivariate Verfahren - [ Translate this page ]
... Mittelwerte für alle ... Korretur. · Effekt-Stärke. · Varianzanalyse ... Regression/SAQ/F/p ...
Geschätzte Kriteriums-Werte. ... Kausalitätsprobe mit CHI2 -Test ...
www.kleiter-e.de/kmss-3.htm - 101k - Cached - Similar pages

[PDF] Microsoft PowerPoint - 07Varianzanalyse
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... 20 Hypothetische Differenz der Mittelwerte ... 169992923 Kritischer F-Wert bei einseitigem
Test 0 ... Varianzanalyse Einfache Varianzanalyse ... MS) Prüfgröße (F ...
www.cellulose-papier.chemie.tu-darmstadt.de/.../ Versuchsplanung/Folien/07PPVarianzanalyse.pdf - Similar pages

varistat - [ Translate this page ]
Modul. ... und multifaktorielle (MANOVA) Varianzanalyse ... MS (inter), F, p. ... Unterschied d.
Mittelwerte, X ... Für den Tukey-Test ... dafür den q-Wert ... beiden umgebenden df-Werte ...
www.zoologie.sbg.ac.at/LVAMinnich/varistat.htm - 36k - Cached - Similar pages

[PDF] Varianzanalyse ANOVA
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... und multifaktorielle (MANOVA) Varianzanalyse ... MS (inter) F p ... wo wir folgende Mittelwerte ... Für
den Tukey-Test ... man dafür den q -Wert ... beiden umgebenden df-Werte ...
www.zoologie.sbg.ac.at/LVAMinnich/varistat.pdf - Similar pages


Bei p Treatmentstufen gibt es jeweils Sätze von p-1 zueinander orthogonalen Vergleichen.

F (p-1;N-p;1-)
ist der kritische Wert aus der Tabelle, mit dem
die generelle Unterschiedshypothese der Varianzanalyse
geprüft wird

http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:b8KB2sBcRgUC:visor.unib...


Searched the web for Variance analysis statistical OR Test OR tests OR value OR values "F p". Results 11 - 20 of about 12,700. Search took 0.10 seconds.

[PS] www-stat.stanford.edu/~gous/s61/cig.ps
File Format: Adobe PostScript - View as Text
... Stat161 Handout #11. Cigarette ... R-sq(adj) = 90.7% Analysis of Variance SOURCE DF SS
MS Fp Regression 3 495.26 ... 2. The p-value of the F ... the p-values for the ...
Similar pages

[I’ve substantially shortened the following by “(etc. etc.)” here and there and suspect you won’t mind. Tom]

The name "Analysis of Variance" comes from looking at how the overall sum of squared deviations from the mean can be decomposed into parts. This is related to how the variance of a sum of independent random variables is the sum of the variances of the terms.

The total sum of squares is

SSTotal =

k X

j=1

( etc. etc.)


where _y is the overall sample mean (called _y
G
in the text).
This sum of squares is associated with a total degrees of freedom of DFTotal = N \Gamma 1.
The associated mean square is
MSTotal = SSTotal = DFTotal which is the sample variance for the entire data set.
Decomposing the Sum of Squares The total sum of squares can be decomposed into variation between groups and variation within groups:
SSTotal = SST + SSE where SST is the between group sum of squares, due to different "treatments":
SST =
k X
j=1
n
j
(_y
j
\Gamma _y)
2
and SSE is the sum of squares for the error :
SSE =


(etc. etc.)


R
2
= SST=SSTotal is the proportion of the
total sum of squares explained by the variation between groups.
The F Statistic To test the null hypothesis that _
1
= \Delta \Delta \Delta = _
k
,
we look at the statistic
F =
MST
MSE
Under the null hypothesis, both MSE = s
2
p
and
MST = SST=DFT and have means of oe
2
, but
they vary randomly, giving a distribution for F that depends on the degrees of freedom of the numerator (k \Gamma 1) and denominator (N \Gamma k).

This is called the F distribution. We compute F for our data and look in a table (or use minitab) to find the probability of getting a value this large or larger under the null hypothesis. This is our P -value.

The name "Analysis of Variance" comes from looking at how the overall sum of squared deviations from the mean can be decomposed into parts. This is related to how the variance of a sum of independent random variables is the sum of the variances of the terms.

The total sum of squares is

SSTotal =

(etc. etc.)



where _y is the overall sample mean (called _y

G

in the text).

This sum of squares is associated with a total degrees of freedom of DFTotal = N \Gamma 1.

The associated mean square is

MSTotal = SSTotal = DFTotal which is the sample variance for the entire data set.

Decomposing the Sum of Squares The total sum of squares can be decomposed into variation between groups and variation within groups:

SSTotal = SST + SSE where SST is the between group sum of squares, due to different "treatments":

(etc. etc.)

The associated degrees of freedom are DFT = k \Gamma 1 and DFE = N \Gamma k.

(etc. etc.)


2

= SST=SSTotal is the proportion of the

total sum of squares explained by the variation between groups.

The F Statistic To test the null hypothesis that _

1

= \Delta \Delta \Delta = _

k
(etc. etc.)
,
MSE

Under the null hypothesis, both MSE = s

2

p

and

MST = SST=DFT and have means of oe

2

, but

they vary randomly, giving a distribution for F that depends on the degrees of freedom of the numerator (k \Gamma 1) and denominator (N \Gamma k).

This is called the F distribution. We compute F for our data and look in a table (or use minitab) to find the probability of getting a value this large or larger under the null hypothesis. This is our P -value.





The p-value of the F -statistic for the regression is very small, although a number of the p-values for the coefficients are high

[There you have it! :-)) ]

http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:rUUo1dQl8uQC:www.utstat...


All the best from wild Wonderful West Virginia,

Tom




Selected response from:

Tom Funke
Local time: 12:17
Grading comment
Dear Tom,

Thank you very much for your help. I did not know it was possible to initiate a web search for a single letter of the alphabet!

Yes, generally I do leave abbreviations that I do not understand, and hope for the best, because I have noticed, in the past, from answers to other people's Kudoz questions, that they usually are international abbreviations.

Many thanks again for your help.

Have a good day!

Astrid
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F, p


Explanation:
F,p are apparently values in variance analysis equations. These symbols can be used in either language, German or English, and as such do not need to be translated.
As to what they mean, casual Web searches will show some not so simple examples of how they are defined in context(s). But – speaking for myself as a *** NON!!!*** -mathematician – that doesn’t necessarily mean a non-math reader like me will understand what they really mean; e.g.:

Google:
Searched the web for Varianzanalyse, Mittelwerte statistischer OR Test OR angeben OR Wert OR Werte " F, p". Results 1 - 10 of about 83. Search took 0.20 seconds.

[PDF] (7.41) .... AcAcAcAcD = + + + =
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... post hoc) Tests Scheffé- Test ... gilt: wobei und F (p ... 1;Np;1- ) ist der kritische Wert ... von
H1 durch die Varianzanalyse ... einem zweiten Schritt die Mittelwerte ...
visor.unibe.ch/WS02/statistik2/Einzelvergleiche.pdf - Similar pages

KMSS III: Multiple und Multivariate Verfahren - [ Translate this page ]
... Mittelwerte für alle ... Korretur. · Effekt-Stärke. · Varianzanalyse ... Regression/SAQ/F/p ...
Geschätzte Kriteriums-Werte. ... Kausalitätsprobe mit CHI2 -Test ...
www.kleiter-e.de/kmss-3.htm - 101k - Cached - Similar pages

[PDF] Microsoft PowerPoint - 07Varianzanalyse
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... 20 Hypothetische Differenz der Mittelwerte ... 169992923 Kritischer F-Wert bei einseitigem
Test 0 ... Varianzanalyse Einfache Varianzanalyse ... MS) Prüfgröße (F ...
www.cellulose-papier.chemie.tu-darmstadt.de/.../ Versuchsplanung/Folien/07PPVarianzanalyse.pdf - Similar pages

varistat - [ Translate this page ]
Modul. ... und multifaktorielle (MANOVA) Varianzanalyse ... MS (inter), F, p. ... Unterschied d.
Mittelwerte, X ... Für den Tukey-Test ... dafür den q-Wert ... beiden umgebenden df-Werte ...
www.zoologie.sbg.ac.at/LVAMinnich/varistat.htm - 36k - Cached - Similar pages

[PDF] Varianzanalyse ANOVA
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... und multifaktorielle (MANOVA) Varianzanalyse ... MS (inter) F p ... wo wir folgende Mittelwerte ... Für
den Tukey-Test ... man dafür den q -Wert ... beiden umgebenden df-Werte ...
www.zoologie.sbg.ac.at/LVAMinnich/varistat.pdf - Similar pages


Bei p Treatmentstufen gibt es jeweils Sätze von p-1 zueinander orthogonalen Vergleichen.

F (p-1;N-p;1-)
ist der kritische Wert aus der Tabelle, mit dem
die generelle Unterschiedshypothese der Varianzanalyse
geprüft wird

http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:b8KB2sBcRgUC:visor.unib...


Searched the web for Variance analysis statistical OR Test OR tests OR value OR values "F p". Results 11 - 20 of about 12,700. Search took 0.10 seconds.

[PS] www-stat.stanford.edu/~gous/s61/cig.ps
File Format: Adobe PostScript - View as Text
... Stat161 Handout #11. Cigarette ... R-sq(adj) = 90.7% Analysis of Variance SOURCE DF SS
MS Fp Regression 3 495.26 ... 2. The p-value of the F ... the p-values for the ...
Similar pages

[I’ve substantially shortened the following by “(etc. etc.)” here and there and suspect you won’t mind. Tom]

The name "Analysis of Variance" comes from looking at how the overall sum of squared deviations from the mean can be decomposed into parts. This is related to how the variance of a sum of independent random variables is the sum of the variances of the terms.

The total sum of squares is

SSTotal =

k X

j=1

( etc. etc.)


where _y is the overall sample mean (called _y
G
in the text).
This sum of squares is associated with a total degrees of freedom of DFTotal = N \Gamma 1.
The associated mean square is
MSTotal = SSTotal = DFTotal which is the sample variance for the entire data set.
Decomposing the Sum of Squares The total sum of squares can be decomposed into variation between groups and variation within groups:
SSTotal = SST + SSE where SST is the between group sum of squares, due to different "treatments":
SST =
k X
j=1
n
j
(_y
j
\Gamma _y)
2
and SSE is the sum of squares for the error :
SSE =


(etc. etc.)


R
2
= SST=SSTotal is the proportion of the
total sum of squares explained by the variation between groups.
The F Statistic To test the null hypothesis that _
1
= \Delta \Delta \Delta = _
k
,
we look at the statistic
F =
MST
MSE
Under the null hypothesis, both MSE = s
2
p
and
MST = SST=DFT and have means of oe
2
, but
they vary randomly, giving a distribution for F that depends on the degrees of freedom of the numerator (k \Gamma 1) and denominator (N \Gamma k).

This is called the F distribution. We compute F for our data and look in a table (or use minitab) to find the probability of getting a value this large or larger under the null hypothesis. This is our P -value.

The name "Analysis of Variance" comes from looking at how the overall sum of squared deviations from the mean can be decomposed into parts. This is related to how the variance of a sum of independent random variables is the sum of the variances of the terms.

The total sum of squares is

SSTotal =

(etc. etc.)



where _y is the overall sample mean (called _y

G

in the text).

This sum of squares is associated with a total degrees of freedom of DFTotal = N \Gamma 1.

The associated mean square is

MSTotal = SSTotal = DFTotal which is the sample variance for the entire data set.

Decomposing the Sum of Squares The total sum of squares can be decomposed into variation between groups and variation within groups:

SSTotal = SST + SSE where SST is the between group sum of squares, due to different "treatments":

(etc. etc.)

The associated degrees of freedom are DFT = k \Gamma 1 and DFE = N \Gamma k.

(etc. etc.)


2

= SST=SSTotal is the proportion of the

total sum of squares explained by the variation between groups.

The F Statistic To test the null hypothesis that _

1

= \Delta \Delta \Delta = _

k
(etc. etc.)
,
MSE

Under the null hypothesis, both MSE = s

2

p

and

MST = SST=DFT and have means of oe

2

, but

they vary randomly, giving a distribution for F that depends on the degrees of freedom of the numerator (k \Gamma 1) and denominator (N \Gamma k).

This is called the F distribution. We compute F for our data and look in a table (or use minitab) to find the probability of getting a value this large or larger under the null hypothesis. This is our P -value.





The p-value of the F -statistic for the regression is very small, although a number of the p-values for the coefficients are high

[There you have it! :-)) ]

http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:rUUo1dQl8uQC:www.utstat...


All the best from wild Wonderful West Virginia,

Tom







    see above
Tom Funke
Local time: 12:17
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 2419
Grading comment
Dear Tom,

Thank you very much for your help. I did not know it was possible to initiate a web search for a single letter of the alphabet!

Yes, generally I do leave abbreviations that I do not understand, and hope for the best, because I have noticed, in the past, from answers to other people's Kudoz questions, that they usually are international abbreviations.

Many thanks again for your help.

Have a good day!

Astrid
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