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15:10 Nov 16, 2009
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German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Music / Classical
German term or phrase: Gesangphrase
I'm working on a Japanese>English translation on a contemporary piece for orchestra, but Gesangphrase is the only translation I can find for the term in question (旋律楽句 - which literally means 'melodic phrase' but I suspect has a more technical meaning).

The musical section in question is a multi-layered heterophony of reed woodwinds and strings.

Does Gesangphrase just mean something like 'sung phrase' or is it more specific?
Steven F Smith
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:21


Summary of answers provided
4 +3cantabile
Na Nandhorn Clauder
Summary of reference entries provided
"Gesangsphrase" as "phrase" or "phrasing"
Jim Tucker

Discussion entries: 4





  

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34 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
cantabile


Explanation:
Gesangphrase in music actually means you need to play as an "Atembogen" phrase, normally marked by a legato.

For any instrument, even for piano (actually percussive), the word "cantabile" (it.) is used, which literary means singing-like, to suggest the long, endless line, wihtout any cut in between, like a whole breath of a singer.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2009-11-16 20:13:02 GMT)
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thank you to all comments, esp. the adding of "phrase", "phrasing", or "section" for a noun, if needed.

Example sentence(s):
  • Cantabile is a musical term meaning literally "singable" or "songlike" (Italian). It has several meanings in different contexts. In instrumental music, it indicates a particular style of playing designed to imitate the human voice.

    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantabile
Na Nandhorn Clauder
Germany
Local time: 00:21
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Native speaker of: Native in ThaiThai, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  franglish: Und hierdurch werden voller instrumentirte Gesangphrasen gerechtfertigt, ...... den Tönen der Oboe zu ; am besten drückt sie dieselben im Cantabile aus. ...
51 mins

agree  Diana Loos: Could this be a solution? translating a Japanese word via German and English into Italian?? The meaning is certainly correct!
1 hr

neutral  Jim Tucker: "Cantabile" is a stylistic indication that may apply to a long section of a movement -- much longer, say, than may be sung in one phrase. The word here is probably "Gesang*s*phrase" and simiply means "phrase" or "phrasing"
1 hr

agree  Joel Schaefer: ... but if Steven needs a noun here, I would use cantabile section or cantabile phrase rather than cantabile by itself.
2 hrs
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Reference comments


2 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: "Gesangsphrase" as "phrase" or "phrasing"

Reference information:
Original Instrumente und deren Spielweisen, Gesangsphrasen, Stimmen und
Klänge originaler Schauplätze, wie zum Beispiel eine tibetische
Tempelatmosphäre, sind in eindrucksvoller und absolut authentischer Weise zu
hören.

Here you can see that something much more fundamental than "cantabile" (a specific stylistic instruction) is intended.

Jim Tucker
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 26
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks. Yes, I should have added that it was not a stylistic instruction, rather the grammatical subject of a passage describing the music.


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Nicholas Krivenko: I actually think that you are correct, Jim. Cantabile is indeed a "stylistic instruction", which "Gesangsphrase" is not.
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