über (here)

English translation: concerning/ about

10:34 Oct 21, 2002

German to English translations [PRO]
/ Staff Training/Preposition Problem

German term or phrase: über (here)

99 times out of 100, I can usually work out what über means, but it's giving me major grief here.

In a procedural instruction for staff training, training itself is defined thus:

"Ausbildung, Unterweisung und Übungen an Produktionsanlagen und Prüfmittel, über Verfahren, Abläufe, Verhalten in der Produktion, Prüfungen und Wartungen"

Now, I just can't work out what "über" means here. Does it mean something like "via", or is it related back to "Ausbildung" and "Unterweisung", thus meaning "about"? TIA for helping me clear this one up.

Rowan Morrell KudoZ activity Questions: 2467 (none open) (62 closed without grading) Answers: 2776 New Zealand
Local time: 21:53

English translation:concerning/ about

Explanation:
Yes, it relates back to "Ausbildung, Unterweisung und Übungen".

Selected response from:

Endre Both
Germany
Local time: 11:53

Grading comment

Thanks for that Endre. That's what I wanted to know. Although it's a bit awkward with "an Produktionsanlagen und Prüfmittel". I've ended up actually rendering "über" as "that deal with"! Here's my whole sentence:

"Education, instruction and exercises in production facilities and on testing equipment that deal with methods, sequences and behavior in production, tests and maintenance"

Perhaps not especially elegant, but then as Susanne pointed out, neither is the German! Because of my understanding of "an", I didn't think I could render "über" as "on", but certainly it could work quite well otherwise. Thanks to you all for your assistance.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

5 +1

for processes

Edith Kelly

4 +2

concerning/ about

Endre Both

3 +2

Louise Mawbey

about

Susanne Rosenberg

Answers

3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

for processes

Explanation:
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Note added at 2002-10-21 10:41:50 (GMT)
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meaning here:
training etc. for carrying out processe etc., for learning proper behaviour etc. , for knowing how to test and maintain.

Edith Kelly
Switzerland
Local time: 11:53
Native speaker of:

German,

English
PRO pts in pair: 9253

Grading comment

Sorry, but your answer makes no sense to me.

The asker has declined this answer
Comment: Sorry, but your answer makes no sense to me.

3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

concerning/ about

Explanation:
Yes, it relates back to "Ausbildung, Unterweisung und Übungen".

Endre Both
Germany
Local time: 11:53
Native speaker of:

German,

Hungarian
PRO pts in pair: 648

Grading comment

Thanks for that Endre. That's what I wanted to know. Although it's a bit awkward with "an Produktionsanlagen und Prüfmittel". I've ended up actually rendering "über" as "that deal with"! Here's my whole sentence:<br><br>

"Education, instruction and exercises in production facilities and on testing equipment that deal with methods, sequences and behavior in production, tests and maintenance"<br><br>

Perhaps not especially elegant, but then as Susanne pointed out, neither is the German! Because of my understanding of "an", I didn't think I could render "über" as "on", but certainly it could work quite well otherwise. Thanks to you all for your assistance.

4 mins confidence:

about

Explanation:
Über relates to Ausbildung/Unterweisung - not very good German, though! :-)

Susanne Rosenberg
Germany
Local time: 11:53
Native speaker of:

Danish,

German
PRO pts in pair: 19

5 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

on

Explanation:
training, instruction and exercises on the procedures, processes etc. using production systems and Prüfmittel

Louise Mawbey
Germany
Local time: 11:53
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 1058

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