German: BelastungspunkteEnglish translation: penalty points KudoZ The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators ... More |
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German to English translations [PRO] Tech/Engineering - Paper / Paper Manufacturing / sustainable forestry/monocultures | | German term or phrase: Belastungspunkte | Knockout Criterion: Paper made of primary fibre from old-growth forests.
Criterion / Question Belastungs-punkte
Woher kommt das Holz
für den einge-setzten Faserstoff?
Nachhaltige Forstwirt-schaft bzw.
nicht relevant, da Recycling-fasern.
Monokul-tur/Plantage.
Urwald bzw. Herkunft nicht bekannt.
Its from a table evaluating the damage done to the environment as a whole and the old growth forests in particular through the production of paper. These "Belastungspunkte" state the extent to which the method applied is disadvantageous to the nature, but how do you say that? |
| | Clarification request(s) and responseKatja Schoone: 3:10pm Jan 13, 2008: I tend to just calling it "minus/negative points", because in this table there are actually points "awarded" (0 for sustainable forestry and 100% recycled fibrous material; 1 point for monocultures/plantations and 2 points for old-growth forest or unknown origin) Kim Metzger: 3:29pm Jan 13, 2008: Language tips: "the nature" – nature. "I tend to just calling it" – I tend to just call it Katja Schoone: 3:36pm Jan 13, 2008: @ Kim - Thank you, now there is just a suitable answer outstanding ;-) Katja Schoone: 4:02pm Jan 13, 2008: The whole table actually reads like that: - Kriterium / Frage Belastungspunkte
Woher kommt das Holz 0
für den einge-setzten Faserstoff?
Nachhaltige Forstwirt-schaft bzw.
nicht relevant, da Recycling-fasern.
Monokul-tur/Plantage. 1
Urwald bzw. Herkunft nicht bekannt. 2
I hope this make it a little clearer. Thank you all in advance.
Katja Schoone: 8:24pm Jan 13, 2008: The table is not actually as it is shown above, the layout changes when posting it here:
First there is:
Kriterium/Frage
Woher kommt das Holz
für den einge-setzten Faserstoff?
Antwort:
Nachhaltige Forstwirt-schaft bzw.
nicht relevant, da Recycling-fasern.
Monokul-tur/Plantage.
Urwald bzw. Herkunft nicht bekannt.
And there are then Belastungspunkte depending on the impact on nature:
There is: 0 points for nachhaltige Forstwirtschaft
1 point for Monokultur/Plantage
2 points for Urwald
These "Belastungspunkte" are then added in the end and the result is a total of "Belastungspunkte"
Katja Schoone: 11:52am Jan 14, 2008: I try to again to explain this. It is not the different points which have a negative impact on nature/environment, but there are actual points "awarded" for the different gaining of raw material for paper production. The company receives 0 "Belastungspunkte" for supply out of sustainable forestry or recycled fibresl, 1 point for monocultures etc, and the worst is the use of fibrous material from old-growth forests (virgin fibres). All these points add up and in the end the company is classified: umweltneutraler Produktion, umweltschädliche Produktion, schwerwiegende Umweltschädigungen durch die Produktion ............Therefore, I do not think that impact indicators will work here, cause the indicator imho is the approach/production method and not the negative points you may "earn" with it.
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| | penalty points | Explanation: ...is perhaps the term you are looking for in the context of environmental impact score (EI score)?
Google for:
"environmental impact score" + "penalty points"
From this information, Jones calculated an environmental impact score for 1 kilogram of each builder material....
Phosphates can be extracted from waste water before it is discharged into waterways, and the recycled phosphate used to manufacture washing powders. This would wipe off 30 to 40 **penalty points** from STPP's score. There is no known way of recycling zeolites.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14119111.600-would-you...
A Fuzzy Inference System (FIS) is developed so that the environmental impact of the stressors can be quantified at each life cycle stage. The hierarchical structure of the scoring system in the proposed model has the advantage of single and multiscoring systems which present both the results as an **Environmental Impact Score (EI Score)** or several individual impact scores.
http://dspace.cityu.edu.hk/handle/2031/4519
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| Selected response from: Chetan Sampat India
| Note from asker to answererI think this fits my context well. And thx to all the others for their brainstorming ;-) 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer |
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| impact indicators
Explanation: Just one of many examples:
National Climate Impact Indicators
The National Climate Impact Indicators program was established at NCDC to enhance the understanding of weather and climate's effects on socioeconomic ...
lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cie/cie.html -
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Asker: Vielen Dank, aber das kommt mir ein bisschen zu stark vor für die Bewertung der Auswirkungen auf die Umwelt bei der Papierproduktion.
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| strain points
Explanation: I've come across with "strain points" in the paper production once. I think, it fits the context and there are some google hits, too.
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After your comprehensive explanation, I wonder whether those might be "determinating points" or "determination points" on basis of which the final decision/evaluation on classification is given.
It's just a thought really.
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| penalty points
Explanation: ...is perhaps the term you are looking for in the context of environmental impact score (EI score)?
Google for:
"environmental impact score" + "penalty points"
From this information, Jones calculated an environmental impact score for 1 kilogram of each builder material....
Phosphates can be extracted from waste water before it is discharged into waterways, and the recycled phosphate used to manufacture washing powders. This would wipe off 30 to 40 **penalty points** from STPP's score. There is no known way of recycling zeolites.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14119111.600-would-you...
A Fuzzy Inference System (FIS) is developed so that the environmental impact of the stressors can be quantified at each life cycle stage. The hierarchical structure of the scoring system in the proposed model has the advantage of single and multiscoring systems which present both the results as an **Environmental Impact Score (EI Score)** or several individual impact scores.
http://dspace.cityu.edu.hk/handle/2031/4519
| | Note from asker to answerer| I think this fits my context well. And thx to all the others for their brainstorming ;-) |
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| evaluation criteria
Explanation: This applies only to this context, of course. As far as I can tell from the example you cited above, the client attempted to write this bilingually on that line, or perhaps the German was translated from an English original document and the English (criterion/question) was left in.
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Or "impact assessment criteria". I disagree with the comment to Elizabeth about "impact" being too strong a word - it's normal language in the world of environmental assessments, recycling, etc. - but "indicators" is a term I have encountered more with formally defined criteria, such as in the GRI G3 Guideline. If these questions are drawn from such a thing, then Elizabeth's answer is quite appropriate.
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Do make it a point to give full context, not something half-translated. Based on this latest info & what looks like some unitless scoring criteria, I'd say the word order is reversed in that line (typical) and you should write something like "(Environmental) impact points assessment criteria:". In any case, I'd score this for Elizabeth, as she was fairly close on this. We are clearly talking about environmental impacts here.
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Katja, I don't understand what you are still struggling with. You are indeed dealing with a form of environmental impact scoring here, and Elizabeth was closer to the mark on this. Just ignore the indicator part and translate it as I suggested in the previous note.
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Asker: It was already translated by me, it read Kriterium/Frage and then there are actual points given according to the extent of impact to nature. Therefore, I would need a word which I can "answer with a number" and not with the explanation of the evaluation criteria.
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