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weil es ihn ‘gut dünkt’

English translation: because he considers it good / a good thing


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German term or phrase:weil es ihn ‘gut dünkt’
English translation:because he considers it good / a good thing
Entered by: Andrew Stucken
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11:34 May 3, 2010
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Philosophy / Highest Good
German term or phrase: weil es ihn ‘gut dünkt’
"Alles Wollen zielt hinaus auf das 'höchste Gut,' Auch Böses tut einer nur, weil es ihn ‘gut dünkt’ und er sich davon ein Glück verspricht."

The entire context is given above. I am wondering if there is a play on words there with "Böse" and "gut" which is going to be very hard to render into English.
Andrew Stucken
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:15
because he considers it good / a good thing
Explanation:
http://www.dict.cc/?s=dünken
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LittleBalu
Germany
Local time: 14:15
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4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +5because he considers it good / a good thingLittleBalu
5 +1because he thinks it could be a good ideaJos Kriegler
3 +2evil one does because one deems it good
Michél Dallaserra
4 +1because it seems good to himcasper
4 +1because it suits him well
Thayenga
3 +1because it feels right
Elsje Apostel


Discussion entries: 4





  

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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
because he thinks it could be a good idea


Explanation:
my understanding as a native of both languages

Jos Kriegler
Local time: 13:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thankyou


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kathi Stock: that is definitely the gist of the meaning
2 mins

agree  Helen Shiner: 'would be' rather than 'could be' would sound more natural. Or 'might be', or just plain 'it is'. Or 'because it seems like a good idea to him'.
36 mins

disagree  Johanna Timm, PhD: Not because he thinks it is a "good idea", but because man will always aim for the good, and the good that he means to do (or is able to do) is always that which appears to him as good.
5 hrs
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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
because it suits him well


Explanation:
Because it serves his purpose it matters little to him whether it's good or evil.

Thayenga
Germany
Local time: 14:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 2
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thankyou


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kathi Stock: great rendition of the meaning!
3 mins

neutral  Thomas Pfann: Vielleicht zu egoistisch. Ich denke, es ist so gemeint: Wenn der Mensch Böses tut, dann quasi "aus Versehen". Er meint, er täte etwas Gutes, und erst später stellt sich heraus, dass es doch nicht gut war. Es war aber nie seine Absicht, Böses zu tun.
27 mins

neutral  LittleBalu: Nein, nicht weil es ihm in den Kram passt, sondern weil er glaubt, dass es "gut" ist (er "gut" handelt).
3 hrs

neutral  Johanna Timm, PhD: mit LittleBalu
5 hrs
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37 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
because it seems good to him


Explanation:
das dünkt mich gut, das dünkt mich or mir gut zu sein, mich dünkt, dass das gut ist
it seems good to me
http://dictionary.reverso.net/german-english/dünken

casper
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Jennifer


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  dasein_wm
2 hrs
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
because it feels right


Explanation:
First thing that came to mind

Elsje Apostel
Local time: 14:15
Native speaker of: Dutch
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thankyou


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Thomas Pfann: Mich dünkt, das trifft es ganz gut.
18 mins
  -> Danke Thomas

agree  Jim Tucker
22 mins
  -> TY Jim

disagree  LittleBalu: sorry, this is not about something feeling right but about someone believing that he is acting right (good vs. evil)
3 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
evil one does because one deems it good


Explanation:
"Even evil one does because one deems it good."



Michél Dallaserra
Germany
Local time: 14:15
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Michel


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Elisabeth Kissel: I would go with 'deems' as well. I think it expresses the same 'register' as 'duenkt'.
6 hrs
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agree  Julia Esrom: agree
20 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
because he considers it good / a good thing


Explanation:
http://www.dict.cc/?s=dünken

LittleBalu
Germany
Local time: 14:15
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: ganz genau
1 hr

agree  Kathi Stock
2 hrs

agree  Thomas Pfann: auf den Punkt gebracht
3 hrs

agree  Andrew Swift: When I was a secondary school teacher, I would ask unruly children why they were behaving in such a disruptive fashion. The most common response was: “Because I deem it meet and right so to do.”
4 hrs

agree  Reinhold Wehrmann
19 hrs
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